I get the logic, but I think Bledsoe has done remarkably well stepping in for Paul. Do you disagree? Also, NO ONE here has proposed a trade for Bledsoe that would net us Chris Paul, so no one is saying they're a good comp.
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I get the logic, but I think Bledsoe has done remarkably well stepping in for Paul. Do you disagree? Also, NO ONE here has proposed a trade for Bledsoe that would net us Chris Paul, so no one is saying they're a good comp.
GVC
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Idiotic. The Clips outscored the Celtics by 14 in the 38 minutes he was on the court. In the 10 minutes he was on the bench, the Clips were outscored by 16. Not sure how you can pin this loss on him. What's your reasoning?
Paul won a single playoff series while in New Orleans. The Hornets missed the playoffs 3 of the 6 seasons Paul was there.
****, dude, a little intellectual integrity would be nice.
Gyp Rosetti
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No, I didn't say CP3 sucked while in NO. I implied that his record, according to your logic, was an indicator he wasn't a good PG .. it was sarcasm.
You're using Bledsoe as an example of being no good because of the Clips going 2 - 5 with Paul out. Two questions;
1) Have you seen his stats, including +/-?
2) When Paul is healthy, he starts and is backed up by Bledsoe .. when Paul is out, Bledsoe plays and is backed up by .. whoever. (Do you get this?)
Gyp Rosetti
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Your first point is very fair. And looking back at his numbers, they're +/- is positive when he's been on the floor in those seven games.
Paul however had mediocre talent at best while in NO and did quite well with it. Hell, they were one game from going to the conference finals had it not been for the Spurs the one year.
GVC
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That's a different argument than the one you made initially.
Also, Tyson Chandler-David West-MoPete-Peja-Chris Paul was far from mediocre. Pretty damn solid.
Gyp Rosetti
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Wait. Is this about Bledsoe sucking or Paul being great? I'll admit to the latter, but somehow I think the topic has changed.
Unless I'm mistaken, this all started from you saying Bledsoe is a stupid head because of the Clips record.
Okie dokie. I'm not even trying to say he's awesome or anything, I just didn't like the argument that he must not be good because he's led the Clips to a 2-5 record.
There are way too many other things to consider than to wholesale come to that conclusion.
Gyp Rosetti
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It's not a different argument. I simply said they were solid with him there, especially given mediocre talent. And dude, intellectual honesty? Mo Pete? Really? C'mon bro. I only wish I could go back to the old board to find the number of times you and others, myself included, said MoPete sucked and that Chandler and Peja were wildly overrated. Plus they had zero bench.
I'll admit I was overly harsh but I'm not sure I'd say he's played exceptionally well given his marginally positive plus/minus vs. crap competition and their 2-5 record. That's all. Am I wrong here Jeffrey?
Gyp Rosetti
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Gyp Rosetti
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5-5, okay, okay. I just don't get the love by the board. A hard push for Teague, not Bledsoe, is what should be made imo.
GVC
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To get Teague, the Jazz will have to overpay. I'm not buying on him being a big enough difference maker for that to make sense. Bledsoe could be available in a trade, and the Jazz would have the ability to match any offer for him in the summer of 2014. If he can be had for spare parts and mid-first round draft picks, it makes sense.
Gyp Rosetti
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LOL .. <3 having you around, Wes.
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Would love to know the context, because what an absurdly terrible notion to have in the 1st Q of one game.
At halftime, Bledsoe has 10pts (on 50% shooting), 6asts (with 1 to), 1rb, 1stl, 1blk.
What do you think his point is?