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Cyrone Torbin said:
Uggh, wouldn't trade Hayward for MKG.

Porter >>>>> MKG
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In certain aspects of the game, definitely. Depending on what team they play for, ultimately. I would bet Pops would rather have Porter as he has great command of his team and isn't going to value the intangibles as much. Other teams will be more in need of MKG.

Don't be a knucklehead here, Cy. Please keep some measure of credibility/respectability.
 
PKM said:
In certain aspects of the game, definitely. Depending on what team they play for, ultimately. I would bet Pops would rather have Porter as he has great command of his team and isn't going to value the intangibles as much. Other teams will be more in need of MKG.

Don't be a knucklehead here, Cy. Please keep some measure of credibility/respectability.
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do you think this particular kentucky team could use anthony davis or MKG more? (before or after the noel injury)

watching that mizz game all i kept thinking was MKG would not allow this tip-drill, he'd have finished with 15rebs
 
PKM said:
In certain aspects of the game, definitely. Depending on what team they play for, ultimately. I would bet Pops would rather have Porter as he has great command of his team and isn't going to value the intangibles as much. Other teams will be more in need of MKG.

Don't be a knucklehead here, Cy. Please keep some measure of credibility/respectability.
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When did MKG put up 33 points, 8 rebounds, 5 steals, and 2 assist on the road against a top 5 ranked opponent?
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
When did MKG put up 33 points, 8 rebounds, 5 steals, and 2 assist on the road against a top 5 ranked opponent?
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ill let pkm handle this. but your confused of the skill-sets here, and MKG is younger, with an adrian peterson work ethic, if/when he improves his jumper, you will eat sooooooooo much crow because he can already get to the rack. your barking up the wrong tree with this comparison.

EDIT pkm have you ever seen him jump that high before?
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
When did MKG put up 33 points, 8 rebounds, 5 steals, and 2 assist on the road against a top 5 ranked opponent?
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When did Porter get his teammates out of bed every morning, get them to an extra workout BEFORE practice started, work with each player, one-on-one, to help them get better, and win a national championship?
 
PointGod_AlecBurks said:
ill let pkm handle this. but your confused of the skill-sets here, and MKG is super young, with an adrian peterson work ethic, if/when he improves his jumper, you will eat sooooooooo much crow because he can already get to the rack

EDIT pkm have you ever seen him jump that high before?
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So he has an Adrian Peterson work ethic and his jumper is still piss poor?
 
PointGod_AlecBurks said:
ill let pkm handle this. but your confused of the skill-sets here, and MKG is younger, with an adrian peterson work ethic, if/when he improves his jumper, you will eat sooooooooo much crow because he can already get to the rack. your barking up the wrong tree with this comparison.

EDIT pkm have you ever seen him jump that high before?
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He had several of those at UK.
 
PKM said:
When did Porter get his teammates out of bed every morning, get them to an extra workout BEFORE practice started, work with each player, one-on-one, to help them get better, and win a national championship?
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I guess MKG wins the practice award and having a team full of top 10 recruits award.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
So he has an Adrian Peterson work ethic and his jumper is still piss poor?
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Sometimes you're such a douche that everything else has zero credibility. You can say MKG is a great player without that impacting your love for Otto. Everyone here has said nice things about Porter. Did we get too far off topic for you?
 
MKG is a great guy. I like when he dunks.

I wouldn't trade Hayward for him straight up.
I wouldn't draft him over Porter.
 
yeah im not gonna respond to some of that stuff directly but iwill entertain you with a story.

i grew up in brooklyn, and im way smarter then my peers especially as a youngin. when your on the playground everyones fighting and bullying or playing a game and then a fight breaks out, basically lots of **** talking. now me, im blessed, i have a silver toungue + im devastatingly handsome, so i never needed to compete or fight with kids on their level, i always had a way to disarm people with my words. im like that, trust me.

but ya know its still lots of kids on the playground and **** goes down. if u mess with the wrong little kid he might have a brother who wants to show off how big and tough he is. now i dont know exactly where MKG and Adrian Peterson enter this story, but. even me with my gift of the gab, I'd see a few kids where i go, i dont want to even mess around over there your asking for trouble, he looks like hes waiting for something to pop off, waiting for some clueless kid to accidentally throw a ball his way so he can throw it over the fence to make a point for no reason, or something. the point is adrian and mkg are that guy, not in a tough guy rocky, gangster sense, in a WOW that guy looks hungry sense. and then you see them the next day and its the same thing. and the next day, you get it.

id also bring up the name Mike Tyson, and the word Ferocity. that is all

Edit: im totally biased in MKG's favor, i knew him as Michael Gilchrist for years, hes been on my radar for way too long.

id do both 1st rounders plus gordon, it would hurt burks this year, he needs the space from gordo, longterm its the type of move thats almost a no brainer, this kid is ready do d up your best wing player, every night.

Porter is a 3 MKG 3/2 which much more rare, in my book.
 
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PointGod_AlecBurks said:
i grew up in brooklyn, and im way smarter then my peers especially as a youngin. when your on the playground everyones fighting and bullying or playing a game and then a fight breaks out, basically lots of **** talking. now me, im blessed, i have a silver toungue + im devastatingly handsome, so i never needed to compete or fight with kids on their level, i always had a way to disarm people with my words. im like that, trust me.

but ya know its still lots of kids on the playground and **** goes down. if u mess with the wrong little kid he might have a brother who wants to show off how big and tough he is. now i dont know exactly where MKG and Adrian Peterson enter this story, but. even me with my gift of the gab, I'd see a few kids where i go, i dont want to even mess around over there your asking for trouble, he looks like hes waiting for something to pop off, waiting for some clueless kid to accidentally throw a ball his way so he can throw it over the fence to make a point for no reason, or something. the point is adrian and mkg are that guy, not in a tough guy rocky, gangster sense, in a WOW that guy looks hungry sense. and then you see them the next day and its the same thing. and the next day, you get it.
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oh i got it!! heres how they fit in! if you messed with either adrian or mkg's little brother and they ran back to adrian or mkg crying beat up, the beating youd get would be a skilled beating, but youd know it wasent just some guy with a blue belt (otto porter) you would feel the force of unadulterated fury of the beast.
 
PointGod_AlecBurks said:
oh i got it!! heres how they fit in! if you messed with either adrian or mkg's little brother and they ran back to adrian or mkg crying beat up, the beating youd get would be a skilled beating, but youd know it wasent just some guy with a blue belt (otto porter) you would feel the force of unadulterated fury of the beast.
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Yeah, but Porter is better at basketball.
 
PKM said:
No
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yeah i figured you wouldent like that story lol but you know these kids personally lol i just watch a few games, i picked up on the "controlled fire" that mkg plays with way back in HS, i can honestly say i was going to watch kyrie after that story about him actually breaking some kids ankles and MKG stole the show
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
Yeah, but Porter is better at basketball.
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porter is also a year older and needs to put on 25lbs ideally if he wants to ever play swing 4.

also these are prospects, give mkg a few years, give porter a few years. trust me dude porter doesnt have the hunger like MKG (literally and metaphorically)

MKG and adrian peterson and prime mike tyson remind me of me, the type to maximize every minute of the day, unlimited learning curve

how do grade porters footspeed? and lateral quickness?
 
btw pkm if you really are curious about how i figured all this **** out sitting on my couch from the internet. i have many perspectives on sports, years ago i went straight to the stanford opencourseware on their site and read massively indepth stuff on the topic of "game theory".

i always read lots of books about gambling tho i dont gamble anymore, thats what got me into books. i understand the high science behind being a successful horse handicapper and i think that type of knowledge really helps me deduce proper conclusions about these draft systems, these horses are only good for big money as 2 and 3 year olds. its a much smaller window of time you have to predict about a successful career. idk i have so many perspectives its hard for me to explain why i win. you kinda have to know me to get it. i take pride in being able to appraise, everything.
 
PointGod_AlecBurks said:
btw pkm if you really are curious about how i figured all this **** out sitting on my couch from the internet. i have many perspectives on sports, years ago i went straight to the stanford opencourseware on their site and read massively indepth stuff on the topic of "game theory".

i always read lots of books about gambling tho i dont gamble anymore, thats what got me into books. i understand the high science behind being a successful horse handicapper and i think that type of knowledge really helps me deduce proper conclusions about these draft systems, these horses are only good for big money as 2 and 3 year olds. its a much smaller window of time you have to predict about a successful career. idk i have so many perspectives its hard for me to explain why i win. you kinda have to know me to get it. i take pride in being able to appraise, everything.
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I was mainly surprisee of your knowledge of past players, before your time.. you've obviously read a lot and watched a lot of bb.
 
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