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To Tank or Not to Tank? that is the Question.

Should the Jazz let Jefferson and Millsap go so that the potential for a high draft pick is greater?

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Basketball_Romantic23

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In the Parlance of Steven A. Smith, "I am of the mindset" that the Utah Jazz need to let Millsap go, let Jefferson go, play the young guys, and see what happens. I imagine that such an action by the powers that be will land the Jazz in the lottery-- 29-33 wins likely. then, in 2014, we might have a chance at a solid pick, or maybe we could even be suprised by the play of the young guys and still make the playoffs, which might not actually not be a good thing or maybe it would. hard to say. Anyway, I say we go lean next season. Love Millsap as a person and player, love Big Al as a person, but the Jazz can't win big with them. Discuss tanking or not tanking.
 
Then I think the only bad thing about it is that we let millsap go becasue he would be an awesome piece to a championship team if he accepted coming off the bench. Not saying we'd be a contender at that point though, though with a ton of growth from the young guys, it would be possible.
 
Im not in favor of tanking, but I am in favor of letting Al and Paul go and seeing what happens next season with the young guys. If this leads to a high draft pick then great. But who knows what could happen.
A lot could do with whomever is picked up to replace Al and Paul and what Ty's does with said replacements. It could still be another season of vet ball, just with different vets, and the young guys sitting on the bench again. I hope not, but nothing surprises me anymore when it comes the Jazz.
 
Letting Sap and Al go isn't tanking. That's just normal free agency. Tanking means you intentionally try to lose games. I think we should play our young players more minutes (don't overplay them), and let the wins and losses fall where they may.
 
Catchall said:
Letting Sap and Al go isn't tanking. That's just normal free agency. Tanking means you intentionally try to lose games. I think we should play our young players more minutes (don't overplay them), and let the wins and losses fall where they may.
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Well, you could argue that it is a passive or indirect way of tanking.
 
I am no fan of intentionally losing. However, as Mayor of Tankville, I fully support the following chess play: developing young talent quicker by running lots of plays they are currently unsuccessful at making sure Al Jefferson is fully healthy before risking returning him to action.

I want to see a ton of Favors in both posts, Hayward in PnR, Burks driving and hanging around the open spot at the three point line, point guard by committee, new offensive sets, and last but not least benching Al when he allows easy layups or does not pass to wide open wing shooters.
 
This thread will be irrelevant by Midnight EST tonight. the kids are set to start, with an imminent beatdown of a last place team (9point favorites).

no Al or Paul tonight, as they are resting for the playoffs while we let the kids burn some of this angst they've been building. Tys hand should be forced to give burks 30+ tonight also, im AMPED.

After tonight the playoffs will be in our tunnel vision, i think we can overtake the 6spot for sure.

whats the point of tanking anyway who do you want at #13 instead of #18 so bad that you want injuries, no playoff games and losing basketball over... come to the draft thread and explain to me who exactly that prospect is, thats worthy of screwing with this team of 20 year olds..
 
Catchall said:
Letting Sap and Al go isn't tanking. That's just normal free agency. Tanking means you intentionally try to lose games. I think we should play our young players more minutes (don't overplay them), and let the wins and losses fall where they may.
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Maybe the poll should have been titled "should the Jazz go lean?"
 
Basketball_Romantic23 said:
Well, you could argue that it is a passive or indirect way of tanking.
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I disagree. To me, tanking is intentionally losing. You can make excuses like injuries, and wanting to develop players, but the intent is to lose to improve your draft position. If the Jazz let Millsap and Jefferson to go to let the young guys get more minutes and lose more games than this year as a result, fine. To be honest it would be hard to know the exact intent of the FO in that situation, but I like to think that our FO would do it for the right reason.
 
Tank? Nah. Play the youth? Maybe, seeing as both Kanter and Favors are better defenders than Al and Millsap. However, the offense needs to change if this happens because in this case it would be better to start the offense with the guards and the small forward with the PF and C being the later part of the offense. You know, like the rest of the league does? I believe that Al is just as bad for Marvin's offense as he is for Gordon's offense. Basically, try to cut to the basket first and then pass the ball to the C or PF if the defense collapses on you. Also, Marvin is a stretch 4, not a 3. I believe this now, and I think he should be Favor's primary backup with Gordon starting at the 3 with Burks at the 2. Yeah, Hayward is probably a better 2, but he isn't a bad 3 either, especially if the Jazz actually decide to use the 3 as something other than the third or fourth option. That was Kirilinko's problem, he was never the primary option with Boozer and Okur on the floor with Deron there, he was fourth. FOURTH! AK! our MAX player!

The days of pounding the post are almost over, and the age of guards and SF's is here, so let's use our talent.
 
spycam1 said:
Maybe the poll should have been titled "should the Jazz go lean?"
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I just don't think the Jazz are going to overpay Al or Sap in free agency. We'll lose them or maybe sign-and-trade one of them. It's no different from when Boozer left.
 
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midnight_hwy said:
Im not in favor of tanking, but I am in favor of letting Al and Paul go and seeing what happens next season with the young guys.
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Depending upon the salary needed to retain one or the other, I agree. If you need to let them both go, fine, but not for tanking purposes.
 
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