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Following potential 2013 draftees

I wonder how closely KOC is looking at Marcus Smart. I'm guessing he falls into the 4-6 range come draft day. If our top pick is 12-13, it'd likely take a hefty package to move up that high.

Still, we've shown a willingness to go get our guy at the PG spot if we've zeroed in on a certain prospect.

Smart in a Jazz uniform next year would be quite the sight.
 
bigmike said:
I wonder how closely KOC is looking at Marcus Smart. I'm guessing he falls into the 4-6 range come draft day. If our top pick is 12-13, it'd likely take a hefty package to move up that high.

Still, we've shown a willingness to go get our guy at the PG spot if we've zeroed in on a certain prospect.

Smart in a Jazz uniform next year would be quite the sight.
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I don't know, I just don't see Smart as worth the price to move up to 3/4 .. considering what will be in the teens. I would imagine we'd have to part with a member of the C4.
 
PKM said:
I don't know, I just don't see Smart as worth the price to move up to 3/4 .. considering what will be in the teens. I would imagine we'd have to part with a member of the C4.
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I feel the same way. I think we've got a decent shot at getting Burke or McCollum without giving up any of the C4. I'd much rather do that.
 
I scouted four games (vs Oklahoma, Texas Tech, Baylor, Kansas St.) of BONGO to get a better idea of how he scores the ball. The stats show he has a very well rounded scoring game. Here is where his offense comes from:

Spot up 3-pointers: ~29% of total points scored

Free throws: ~17% of total points scored

Low post up moves: ~13% of total points scored

Fast break opportunities: ~13% of total points scored

High post moves: ~11% of total points scored

Mid range spot up jumpers: ~6% of total points scored

Drives: ~4% of total points scored

Offensive put-back's: ~4%

Alley-oop dunks: ~2% of total points scored


BONGO seems to be a really underrated 3-point shooter. It's where he gets the majority of his points from, and in these games he shot 64% (9/14) on spot up 3's. On the season he's shooting 42% on 3.5 attempts per game from 3.

Another area that really stood out was his ability to score out of the high post. 11% of his offense came here, but the more impressive thing was that he shot 71% from the high post (post moves outside of 10 feet is how I measured it). It's a small sample size, but I do believe he has an elite post game for a perimeter player his age.

He aslo scores out of the low post, and gets to the FT line at a great rate like any good scorer should.

The main thing missing from his scoring arsenal is his ability to take his man off the dribble. But, he's better at it than the 4% would suggest, cause sometimes he would drive, then be met by another defender and end up shooting a jump hook out of the low/high post, so I counted the points in those categories.

He scores all over the court, both within the flow of the offense (coming of screens for spot up jumpers etc.) and by creating his own shot. If he ever improves his handle the way he improved his 3-pointer (that was one of the nocks on his game coming out of high school), then watch out.
 
Looking at the Jazz draft history. Anyone noticed that the Jazz drafts mostly from either Europe or the South?

From 2000 onwards they picked 29 players. 4 from California in Snyder, Stevenson, Sampson and Collins, 2 from Dallas D-Will and CJ Miles. 1 from Brent Arbor Michigan (Whaley). 80% were from Europe or the South.
 
UGLI baby said:
I scouted four games (vs Oklahoma, Texas Tech, Baylor, Kansas St.) of BONGO to get a better idea of how he scores the ball. The stats show he has a very well rounded scoring game. Here is where his offense comes from:

Spot up 3-pointers: ~29% of total points scored

Free throws: ~17% of total points scored

Low post up moves: ~13% of total points scored

Fast break opportunities: ~13% of total points scored

High post moves: ~11% of total points scored

Mid range spot up jumpers: ~6% of total points scored

Drives: ~4% of total points scored

Offensive put-back's: ~4%

Alley-oop dunks: ~2% of total points scored


BONGO seems to be a really underrated 3-point shooter. It's where he gets the majority of his points from, and in these games he shot 64% (9/14) on spot up 3's. On the season he's shooting 42% on 3.5 attempts per game from 3.

Another area that really stood out was his ability to score out of the high post. 11% of his offense came here, but the more impressive thing was that he shot 71% from the high post (post moves outside of 10 feet is how I measured it). It's a small sample size, but I do believe he has an elite post game for a perimeter player his age.

He aslo scores out of the low post, and gets to the FT line at a great rate like any good scorer should.

The main thing missing from his scoring arsenal is his ability to take his man off the dribble. But, he's better at it than the 4% would suggest, cause sometimes he would drive, then be met by another defender and end up shooting a jump hook out of the low/high post, so I counted the points in those categories.

He scores all over the court, both within the flow of the offense (coming of screens for spot up jumpers etc.) and by creating his own shot. If he ever improves his handle the way he improved his 3-pointer (that was one of the nocks on his game coming out of high school), then watch out.
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You've restored my Bongo love.
 
Forgot Humphries from Minn.

Still they drafted from Mississippi, Arkansas, Texas, Colorado, Kentucky, Alabama, Tennessee, Louisiana, Virginia, Oklahoma, Idaho.

And you can go back further from the 90's: Europe, Kansas, Kentucky(again), South Carolina, Georgia, Oklahoma (again).
 
bigmike said:
I wonder how closely KOC is looking at Marcus Smart. I'm guessing he falls into the 4-6 range come draft day. If our top pick is 12-13, it'd likely take a hefty package to move up that high.

Still, we've shown a willingness to go get our guy at the PG spot if we've zeroed in on a certain prospect.

Smart in a Jazz uniform next year would be quite the sight.
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I just don't like picking a player in the top 5 who has a glaring weakness... Smart potentially has 2 weaknesses: He is not a good shooter and his handle is questionable for a PG.
 
spycam1 said:
I feel the same way. I think we've got a decent shot at getting Burke or McCollum without giving up any of the C4. I'd much rather do that.
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Again, my dream draft would be WCS, Saric and Wolters. I wouldn't mind WCS, McCollum and a Euro stash.

I just don't think anyone that we could move up for is worth moving up for.

Who's with me?
 
I would be very wary of moving up in this draft. I would think about it for Oladipo, but the Jazz need a PG so bad that I would give pause just on that front (and The Four aren't getting touched).
 
UGLI baby said:
Been taking notes.

Did you see my BONGO breakdown?

thoughts? Questions? Concerns?
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I saw it and read it. I started to do a Bongo breakdown of a different 4 games, just for fun.
I don't need convincing, we've discussed what I think are his strengths and weaknesses ad nauseum.

I hate him before 18, like him a lot anywhere after 25 .. and anywhere in the middle is meh.
 
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