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Kirelenko in Trade talks!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Of course, one question would be, Are the Jazz better off with a Diaw who plays 82 games per year than with a better defender in AK who misses 1/3 of the season with injuries, and is marginally effective in about 20% more because he is still recovering from his most recent injury?

Also... Getting under or close to the Luxury tax level also opens the door for additional moves down the road that may be impossible with the AK Contract.

Better off right now?... not likely by much...

Better off later this year, and next?... Probably so.
 
JCribb said:
Even if this trade falls through, the fact that the Jazz are considering it tells us how desperately they are looking for immediate salary relief. This is all about salary cap concerns and has nothing to do with basketball. With two years left on Diaw's deal the Jazz need to pass on this. This trade doesn't make the team better, just relieves "some" salary concerns.
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I love beach volleyball.
 
mfree said:
Of course, one question would be, Are the Jazz better off with a Diaw who plays 82 games per year than with a better defender in AK who misses 1/3 of the season with injuries, and is marginally effective in about 20% more because he is still recovering from his most recent injury?

Also... Getting under or close to the Luxury tax level also opens the door for additional moves down the road that may be impossible with the AK Contract.

Better off right now?... not likely by much...

Better off later this year, and next?... Probably so.
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Has Diaw EVER played all 82 more then once?
 
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What a huge F'n mistake if we pull this trigger. AK is the difference between champ / no champ.

DON'T DO IT.

Nice *** grab there Boris. You're really looking cut too.
 
I am kinda surprised that no one mentioned that if this deal is done, the Nuggets will not only get AK but also Derrick Favors, which would be the main reason I would not help facilitate the trade if I were KOC. If Favors reaches his potentials, he will be a big headache for us for years to come in terms of winning the division champ.

If they do look to trade AK, I would rather try to get Chris Kaman or Dalembert. At least they fill a need.
 
As other people stated earlier in this thread, we have to get more for this trade to happen. The salaries just don't match up at all right now.
 
Archie Moses said:
-2 if you really believe that.
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he has a point, we're still a piece away... and that piece may currently be on the team, Sap/Haywerd/CJ
but AK is that xfactor that goes beyond the 3rd piece... to finalize this team as a contender
he's the ron artest/odom, kendrick perkins, dennis rodman, bruce bowen,

diaw's an okay player, but teams have to prepare for AK because of his ability to get blocks in team defense. They don't have to prepare for diaw
 
Apparently there is more coming to the Jazz. Quinton Ross would also be coming!

Championship, baby! Championship!
 
David Stern said:
As other people stated earlier in this thread, we have to get more for this trade to happen. The salaries just don't match up at all right now.
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I haven't looked at the whole deal yet, but the Jazz don't have to match salaries if they are dropping. AK for Diaw works for the Jazz as long as it works for the other teams.
 
mfree said:
Of course, one question would be, Are the Jazz better off with a Diaw who plays 82 games per year than with a better defender in AK who misses 1/3 of the season with injuries, and is marginally effective in about 20% more because he is still recovering from his most recent injury?

Also... Getting under or close to the Luxury tax level also opens the door for additional moves down the road that may be impossible with the AK Contract.

Better off right now?... not likely by much...

Better off later this year, and next?... Probably so.
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Good post
 
Of course. I knew this offseason was too good to be true.

Can someone tell me how the Jazz are saving significant money if they're tied to another year of this lazy french ****'s contract (for a total that is technically more than what the Jazz are slated to pay AK)? I'd rather have AK this year and his Bird Rights than try to fathom paying $18 million for the next TWO years to the fattest players on the team.

The only way this could be swallowable is if the Jazz get a 1st rounder as well. And even still it'd be a ****-move.

We'd better hope Carmello bitches out of the extension talkes. God damn it.
 
wangchung12 said:
Yeah we are getting more out of this deal if the rumors are true (which odds are they are not) cause according to trade checker on realgm.com both Denver and New Jersey needs to send out more.
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Probably tough to pass up the temptation to save $7 million to $9 million in salary (unless someone else needed to be included). But Utah's probably notable worse with Diaw, unless AK has been overrated all this time. Ironically, I think that most would think that resigning AK at $7 million to $9 million would be about right :|.

82games.com has Diaw having played mostly PF last season--and the season before that--with meh results (negative production +/-, good on-court/off-court +/-). But Gerald Wallace and the similarly tall Stephen Jackson were playing the 2 and the 3. He did a bit better with the Suns, which probably suggests that he would do better with us.

It's a trade that I could understand, and maybe Utah could recover from it. He's not a great shooter, but neither is Kiri. Diaw's FG% is high, but he probably has been playing closer to the basket.
https://www.82games.com/0910/09CHA13.HTM#bypos
 
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