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What's Chad Ford's latest updated as of today mock say? Having trouble viewing on phone

Looks like his PG rankings are finally showing that we know a thing or two. He now has them going:

3. Smart
9. Burke
12. McCollum
13. MCW

Really, really sad scouts are getting their heads out their asses and seeing that Burke is legit and that MCW isn't so great.
 
Looks like his PG rankings are finally showing that we know a thing or two. He now has them going:

3. Smart
9. Burke
12. McCollum
13. MCW

Really, really sad scouts are getting their heads out their asses and seeing that Burke is legit and that MCW isn't so great.

Whoa whoa whoa there.. these mock drafts, including Chad's.. isn't a great reflection of scouts' opinions. Almost every scout I ever talk to think the mocks are a mockery..
 
Whoa whoa whoa there.. these mock drafts, including Chad's.. isn't a great reflection of scouts' opinions. Almost every scout I ever talk to think the mocks are a mockery..

A well respected journalist David Aldridge said this at the beginning of his piece on this year's draft:

This is the time of year when you have to pick up the phone and call/text people who are determined not to tell you what they're actually thinking. You have to do this because while the rest of Earth is celebrating/lamenting March Madness, the clock is ticking toward the June NBA Draft, and it's time to start ranking prospects.

It does not bother me that people are lying. I expect it. Like I expect animals to wallow in mud and fling things at me if I get too close to them. It's what they do.

Very few people are going to honestly tell you the players they like in a regular year. But the new Collective Bargaining Agreement makes keeping one's Draft picks even more valuable -- rookie players are on rookie deals, which can go as long as five years, and having such players on your roster is essential to having any chance to maintain salary cap discipline.

So it is tough being a journalist trying to decipher talent at the moment as scouts/GM's aren't necessarily telling the truth.

https://www.nba.co.nz/news/features/david_aldridge/david-aldridges-big-board-point-guards-2013-draft/index.html
 
Burke will be gone by 12. He's more ready than MCW.

That's true..

But if you can fix his shooting & handle, I think he has a lot of upside. His dribble & dish game is already pretty decent because he can finish at the rim and defenders have to respect that. If he can knock down that 3's at around 36-37% rate, he could be pretty good.

He's much more of a project than Burke, but if you're patient, he could be pretty good. May be a late bloomer like Bledsoe?
 
That's true..

But if you can fix his shooting & handle, I think he has a lot of upside. His dribble & dish game is already pretty decent because he can finish at the rim and defenders have to respect that. If he can knock down that 3's at around 36-37% rate, he could be pretty good.

He's much more of a project than Burke, but if you're patient, he could be pretty good. May be a late bloomer like Bledsoe?

I would love to give horny a chance to fix it. his shooting is what scares me the most.
 
I would love to give horny a chance to fix it. his shooting is what scares me the most.

I'm not a scout, I'm sure a scout/Horny/KOC/Lindsey can tell whether or not that shot is fixable. If it's fixable, I'd be inclined to take him over McCollom.

If he can sets up Kanter, Favors & shoot the 3's, I think that's the kind of PG we need.

Don't forget - Kendall Marshal's concern last year were that he can't score. At least MCW can finish strong at the rim and is much more athletic.
 
PKM - at least Chad Ford agrees with you re Brad Stevens in his chat:

Kris (Arlington, VA)

Which NCAA head coach would you like to see get a shot in the NBA?

Chad Ford

Brad Stevens. First of all, he's a basketball genius. Second, he has the demeanor that I think would work in the pros. He motivates with reason, not with screaming and power plays. I think GMs are crazy not to bring him in.

LOL.. makes me wonder how Corbin motivates our player.. hahaha..
 
If Smart, Burke, and McCollum are all gone before we draft, I'd much rather take a big like WCS, Olynyk, or Austin than MCW. Yes, we need a young PG badly. Very badly. But, MCW is so iffy, and we'll also need back up bigs with Al and Sap leaving this offseason. I like the three bigs I named much better as potential third bigs than I do MCW as a potential starting PG.
 
pkm can you give us a rough top 15 or so based on your talks with scouts?

The scouts don't tell me how they rank the players.. it's more of a 'this is what I think about this player or that player'.. my ranking would be my best guess based on the conversations of a small number of scouts and small sampling of teams.. but I'll give you my opinion, fwliw.

what i want to know is what are the scouts saying about Burke?

Everyone is high on Burke for this draft. Not a single scout thinks this draft, as a whole, is worth much.. but I'd put him around 10 on the BPA lists.

Burke will be gone by 12. He's more ready than MCW.

Yes.

That's true..

But if you can fix his shooting & handle, I think he has a lot of upside. His dribble & dish game is already pretty decent because he can finish at the rim and defenders have to respect that. If he can knock down that 3's at around 36-37% rate, he could be pretty good.

He's much more of a project than Burke, but if you're patient, he could be pretty good. May be a late bloomer like Bledsoe?

Romantic notion, but dangerous. Horny is not a miracle worker. Take a guy that plays with poise over a guy you hope learns to shoot.. unless they are spectacular at most everything else.. I don't see MCW as the guy to roll the dice on.

PKM - at least Chad Ford agrees with you re Brad Stevens in his chat:



LOL.. makes me wonder how Corbin motivates our player.. hahaha..

NBA players only respect coaches that have WON.. know more than the player about tactical strategy.. and treat the players like a professional.. even when they're not quite deserving. The player will respond positively to that kind of coach and get better. I suspect the Jazz players think Ty is a cool guy that knows no more than they do.
 
Not according to those I've spoken with.. and only one was at all down on taking him.. but even he said the kid doesn't fall past 3.
I agree with you. As much as I am concerned with his attitude and his entourage, he is one top three players players in draft.
 
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