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Following potential 2014 draftees

orangello said:
I just wish there was a way to add another pick in the teens for next year. I don't see how it's possible unless the Jazz trade a member of the C4. I don't think Burks gets you back into the teens next year unless he has a massive breakthrough type year.
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Second option:

Maybe the best way to strengthen our hand in next year's draft is to strengthen our hand in this draft. Hear me out...

Let's take an aggressive approach as an example:

1. Pick up 2 more draft picks this year, somewhere between 12 and 18.
2. Select McCollum, Austin, Giannis, and Schroeder.
3. Leave the euros in Europe for a year.
4. Play the C4 + McCollum and Austin serious minutes next year.
5. Use some combo of a member of the C4, McCollum, Austin, or the Euros to get a high 2014 pick.
6. Bring everybody together the season after next.

7. Loaded
 
NAOS said:
Second option:

Maybe the best way to strengthen our hand in next year's draft is to strengthen our hand in this draft. Hear me out...

Let's take an aggressive approach as an example:

1. Pick up 2 more draft picks this year, somewhere between 12 and 18.
2. Select McCollum, Austin, Giannis, and Schroeder.
3. Leave the euros in Europe for a year.
4. Play the C4 + McCollum and Austin serious minutes next year.
5. Use some combo of a member of the C4, McCollum, Austin, or the Euros to get a high 2014 pick.
6. Bring everybody together the season after next.

7. Loaded
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I don't think he'll be there with our 2nd round pick...
 
NAOS said:
Cap space may get us two picks in the 20s. We may be able to package those for a pick in the teens.

You wanted a scenario.... here's one.
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I want more than a 20's pick for cap space. Cap space better bring us a quality rotation player, not just a very speculative rookie draft pick. Besides, I think there might be teams willing to just sell a 1st-round pick for $3M. Contenders are going to strecthed thin in terms of payroll. And they'd rather have a vet to shore up their rotations than a rookie at the end of the 1st round.
 
MoTown16 said:
I want more than a 20's pick for cap space. I think there might be teams willing to just sell a 1st-round pick for $3M. Cap space better bring us a quality rotation player, not just a very speculative rookie draft pick.
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Technically, he said a teens pick in next draft.. I think.
 
MoTown16 said:
I want more than a 20's pick for cap space. Cap space better bring us a quality rotation player, not just a very speculative rookie draft pick. Besides, I think there might be teams willing to just sell a 1st-round pick for $3M. Contenders are going to strecthed thin in terms of payroll. And they'd rather have a vet to shore up their rotations than a rookie at the end of the 1st round.
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You'd think so, but our FO hasn't shown lately the ability to find such a head-to-toe winning deal.

And besides.... I'm thinking about potential homerun draft picks or amazing FA signings. "Rotation players" aren't gonna take us to the next level.
 
NAOS said:
You'd think so, but our FO hasn't shown lately the ability to find such a head-to-toe winning deal.

And besides.... I'm thinking about potential homerun draft picks or amazing FA signings. "Rotation players" aren't gonna take us to the next level.
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Neither are picks in the teens. I know the draft is deep, but even at that, count on getting more of a Burks-type player in the late lottery, not a Lillard.
Yes, I do agree with PKM that picks can be combined. But what would, say a 14 and 24 get? I'm guessing maybe a jump of no better than 3-4 spots.
We better get a "homerun" player with our pick (likely top-10 if Utah goes with a youth movement) and THEN get additional picks or solid veterans with the cap relief manuevers.
 
MoTown16 said:
Neither are picks in the teens. I know the draft is deep, but even at that, count on getting more of a Burks-type player in the late lottery, not a Lillard.
Yes, I do agree with PKM that picks can be combined. But what would, say a 14 and 24 get? I'm guessing maybe a jump of no better than 3-4 spots.
We better get a "homerun" player with our pick (likely top-10 if Utah goes with a youth movement) and THEN get additional picks or solid veterans with the cap relief manuevers.
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If we had two 2014 picks and that stack of assets I just listed, then we'd be able to slide up the board with each pick. Moving from 10 to 6 or 7 could be great. Etc.

Don't be a wet blanket. Sketch another idea rather than poopoo this one, since I'm not that invested in it and it isn't impossible either.
 
Naos did you say how we are acquiring two additional mid firsts this year? An unprotected 2015 1st might get you one, taking on a horrible contract for another?
 
NAOS said:
Second option:

Maybe the best way to strengthen our hand in next year's draft is to strengthen our hand in this draft. Hear me out...

Let's take an aggressive approach as an example:

1. Pick up 2 more draft picks this year, somewhere between 12 and 18.
2. Select McCollum, Austin, Giannis, and Schroeder.
3. Leave the euros in Europe for a year.
4. Play the C4 + McCollum and Austin serious minutes next year.
5. Use some combo of a member of the C4, McCollum, Austin, or the Euros to get a high 2014 pick.
6. Bring everybody together the season after next.

7. Loaded
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I like where your head is at. Give me some teams that might be willing to shed their pick this year and what do we have to give up?
 
orangello said:
I like where your head is at. Give me some teams that might be willing to shed their pick this year and what do we have to give up?
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I think Atlanta is a team that might be willing to part with one of their two picks or possibly trade up to our pick with their two first rounders. Either way that gives the Jazz a third first rounder this year.
 
Also, Brooklyn doesn't give a crap about picks so I can see a couple of options with them.

First, set up an agreement to take their pick off their hands after they draft who we want and we can pay them some cash on top of of taking the extra player off their roster

Or

Second (and the one I like more), do a sign and trade with them after the draft that nets (get it?) us the newly drafted player and their pick next season for Millsap. We all know that DWill would rather have Millsap then Evans or Humphries. Millsap would thrive again if that was to happen.

Thoughts?
 
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