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Good stuff. He played really under control.

There are times when he drove with nobody to pass to as well. He turned the ball over twice doing that. But he also got fouled and went to the line 4-5 times doing that too.

But yes, for the most part he was under control, played within the offense, and as you can see, he can change gear pretty quickly & get to the hole as well. (like that last play, he basically went coast to coast, dribbling left and was fast enough to get around Kasey Hill & finish).
 
ok just got done watching the Nike hoops summit on YouTube. I want schöder at 14. he looks like the type of leader that we need. he might be jerk but he leads the team. shot is funky but I think he will be consistent enough to keep defenders honest. the kid has spunk. he should have had a lot more assist but I noticed at 5 times his teammates either bumbled the pass or missed easy lay ups.

Jean-Charles is interesting not sure what position he plays but he is very athletic and long. if he can hit an outside shot h would be a great 3 or if he can bulk up a fantastic 4.

karasev looks like a fantastic set up man. not sure about his ability to guard at the next level, but his shot is beautiful.

I still want Nate wolters as our 3rd pg. being a senior he can be ready now.

nothing to do with the summit but no one is talking Brandon Davies. MVP of the pit (definatly a second rounder) and MVP of the nit allstar game. he has range on his shot, nba body, decent but not great athletism and decent defender. I would be up for taking him with our second round pick.

plan for next year

draft schöder 14 and karasev 21 trade 2 seconds (not next years) for a late first for wolters, then Davies with this years second. (one of either schöder or karasev stays overseas next year)

trade burks and 2 future first rounds (digressing lotto protection) for Bledsoe

trade Marvin Williams for Paul gasol.

re-sign foye 2 years 5 mil

re-sign Carroll 2 years 3 mil (partial on 2nd year)

sign tyreke Evans 3 years 32 mil 4th year team option

Bledsoe, schöder, wolters
Evans, foye
Carroll, Hayward, karasev (eventually)
gasol, Evans, Davies
favors, kanter, Aldrich

team would be at 56 mil and have money for the favors, Hayward and Bledsoe.

Hayward is in the running for 6th man of the year.

Evans is your primary scorer

schöder is the failsafe if Bledsoe can't run a team regularly.

foye is just there until karasev can step into that specialty 3pt shooting role.

Carroll we hope becomes that defensive stopper.

favors interior defender.

kanter bruiser off the bench.

that team should make the playoffs. 3pt shooting is a little suspect on the first team however.
 
Watched a little bit of the game, here's some thoughts on Schroeder.

- Looks small. Really small. Definitely needs to gain weight/strength
- Smart player. If he sees a player that could potentially be open, he'll work the defense to make sure that player does get open. I like that.
- Don't like his shot at all. Needs to be re-tooled, and that most likely will take time.
- Smart defensive player. Doesn't seem to take a lot of risks, just plays his guy. Struggles against players with more size than him.
- Showed he can run a half-court offense. Very important IMO.
- Changed his playing style based on what defense they were running. You would think this is common sense, but you'd be surprised at how big of a struggle this is for young PG's.
- While I don't think he'll ever be a consistent 3-point shooter (I don't care what his stats say, his form won't allow it), if he can hit that jumper from the top of the key coming off a PnR, then he'll do just fine.
- He played well, but I expected him to. I know he's only 19, but he's been playing against grown men for a while. If he couldn't play well against some high schoolers, albeit very good high schoolers, then I would be very wary of him.

With that said, I'm still not sure he's a better option than McCollum. Two very different types of players. I think that Schroeder could run an offense better than McCollum, but I'm not sure whether he would be the better player. They're kind of a toss-up IMO. I do think he's better than Bongo though.

On a side note, Wiggins better learn how to shoot. I know he has a freakish first step and unreal athleticism, but his jumper is clunky. Fun player to watch though.
 
Also, the World team was much better coached and it definitely showed. That also played a large part in some player's performances IMO.
 
I'm watching the game too. I like Schroder, but I don't think you can justify taking him if McCollum is on the board. If McCollum were playing in this game, I have no doubt that he'd be lighting it up.
 
I'm watching the game too. I like Schroder, but I don't think you can justify taking him if McCollum is on the board. If McCollum were playing in this game, I have no doubt that he'd be lighting it up.

Well, there you go though, if nothing else we now have 1 more PG option on the board. I think between #1 - #14, and with 4 PGs to choose from, we should be able to get at least 1 of them.
 
Anybody know how closely our international scout guy Rich Sheurbrooks is involved with the Nike Hoops Summit? I guess he basically ran the thing for over a decade. But I don't know if that changed or stopped when KOC hired him.

No doubt the Jazz have kept a close tab on Europe. Any decision about Schroeder will be well informed.
 
Did a massive amount of research and scouted four games (Ratiopharm, Bayreuth, B. Muenchen, Bremerhaven) of Dennis Schroeder to get a better idea of how he scores the ball. The stats show he has a very well rounded scoring game. Here is where his offense comes from:

Spot up 3-pointers: ~29% of total points scored

Free throws: ~17% of total points scored

Low post up moves: ~13% of total points scored

Fast break opportunities: ~13% of total points scored

High post moves: ~11% of total points scored

Mid range spot up jumpers: ~6% of total points scored

Drives: ~4% of total points scored

Offensive put-back's: ~4%

Alley-oop dunks: ~2% of total points scored


Schroeder seems to be a really underrated 3-point shooter. It's where he gets the majority of his points from, and in these games he shot 64% (9/14) on spot up 3's. On the season he's shooting 42% on 3.5 attempts per game from 3.

Another area that really stood out was his ability to score out of the high post. 11% of his offense came here, but the more impressive thing was that he shot 71% from the high post (post moves outside of 10 feet is how I measured it). It's a small sample size, but I do believe he has an elite post game for a perimeter player his age.

He aslo scores out of the low post, and gets to the FT line at a great rate like any good scorer should.

The main thing missing from his scoring arsenal is his ability to take his man off the dribble. But, he's better at it than the 4% would suggest, cause sometimes he would drive, then be met by another defender and end up shooting a jump hook out of the low/high post, so I counted the points in those categories.

He scores all over the court, both within the flow of the offense (coming of screens for spot up jumpers etc.) and by creating his own shot. If he ever improves his handle the way he improved his 3-pointer (that was one of the nocks on his game coming out of high school), then watch out.
 
Did a massive amount of research and scouted four games (Ratiopharm, Bayreuth, B. Muenchen, Bremerhaven) of Dennis Schroeder to get a better idea of how he scores the ball. The stats show he has a very well rounded scoring game. Here is where his offense comes from:

Spot up 3-pointers: ~29% of total points scored

Free throws: ~17% of total points scored

Low post up moves: ~13% of total points scored

Fast break opportunities: ~13% of total points scored

High post moves: ~11% of total points scored

Mid range spot up jumpers: ~6% of total points scored

Drives: ~4% of total points scored

Offensive put-back's: ~4%

Alley-oop dunks: ~2% of total points scored


Schroeder seems to be a really underrated 3-point shooter. It's where he gets the majority of his points from, and in these games he shot 64% (9/14) on spot up 3's. On the season he's shooting 42% on 3.5 attempts per game from 3.

Another area that really stood out was his ability to score out of the high post. 11% of his offense came here, but the more impressive thing was that he shot 71% from the high post (post moves outside of 10 feet is how I measured it). It's a small sample size, but I do believe he has an elite post game for a perimeter player his age.

He aslo scores out of the low post, and gets to the FT line at a great rate like any good scorer should.

The main thing missing from his scoring arsenal is his ability to take his man off the dribble. But, he's better at it than the 4% would suggest, cause sometimes he would drive, then be met by another defender and end up shooting a jump hook out of the low/high post, so I counted the points in those categories.

He scores all over the court, both within the flow of the offense (coming of screens for spot up jumpers etc.) and by creating his own shot. If he ever improves his handle the way he improved his 3-pointer (that was one of the nocks on his game coming out of high school), then watch out.

Too bad Spy is not around to enjoy this. Dang Mormons!
 
Did a massive amount of research and scouted four games (Ratiopharm, Bayreuth, B. Muenchen, Bremerhaven) of Dennis Schroeder to get a better idea of how he scores the ball. The stats show he has a very well rounded scoring game. Here is where his offense comes from:

Spot up 3-pointers: ~29% of total points scored

Free throws: ~17% of total points scored

Low post up moves: ~13% of total points scored

Fast break opportunities: ~13% of total points scored

High post moves: ~11% of total points scored

Mid range spot up jumpers: ~6% of total points scored

Drives: ~4% of total points scored

Offensive put-back's: ~4%

Alley-oop dunks: ~2% of total points scored


Schroeder seems to be a really underrated 3-point shooter. It's where he gets the majority of his points from, and in these games he shot 64% (9/14) on spot up 3's. On the season he's shooting 42% on 3.5 attempts per game from 3.

Another area that really stood out was his ability to score out of the high post. 11% of his offense came here, but the more impressive thing was that he shot 71% from the high post (post moves outside of 10 feet is how I measured it). It's a small sample size, but I do believe he has an elite post game for a perimeter player his age.

He aslo scores out of the low post, and gets to the FT line at a great rate like any good scorer should.

The main thing missing from his scoring arsenal is his ability to take his man off the dribble. But, he's better at it than the 4% would suggest, cause sometimes he would drive, then be met by another defender and end up shooting a jump hook out of the low/high post, so I counted the points in those categories.

He scores all over the court, both within the flow of the offense (coming of screens for spot up jumpers etc.) and by creating his own shot. If he ever improves his handle the way he improved his 3-pointer (that was one of the nocks on his game coming out of high school), then watch out.

Bayreuth isn't too far away from me. That means he played in a local league. I'm crushed I didn't get to check him out.
I know a few of the local pros from my area. They probably know him, maybe even played against him.

Do you know what team he played for?
 
Bayreuth isn't too far away from me. That means he played in a local league. I'm crushed I didn't get to check him out.
I know a few of the local pros from my area. They probably know him, maybe even played against him.

Do you know what team he played for?

I dont think anything Ugli said was true other then mentioning a few place in his league.
 
Bayreuth isn't too far away from me. That means he played in a local league. I'm crushed I didn't get to check him out.
I know a few of the local pros from my area. They probably know him, maybe even played against him.

Do you know what team he played for?

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