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Some major cities have stricter gun laws because they see their streets being even more deadly when guns are prevalent. Major cities also have higher crime rates. You do understand correlation =/= causation, right?

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Removing all guns would stop gun violence. But would it lower the rate of overall violence? If not, then what have gained by banning guns?

I believe you would significantly decrease fatalities. Even single life saved is a win in my book.
 
Also I have been to Honduras, Canada and several of the islands in the Carribean and I never felt afraid in any of them. But that question of yours stems from your misunderstanding the problem and the motivations of the people involved.

I am glad you felt safe.
This gentlemen for example felt very unsafe and was mocked all over Canadian media. Those two guys by the way were selling cheap tickets for Stampede, lol.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calg...calgary-nose-hill-gun-stampede-police-us.html
 
I am glad you felt safe.
This gentlemen for example felt very unsafe and was mocked all over Canadian media. Those two guys by the way were selling cheap tickets for Stampede, lol.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calg...calgary-nose-hill-gun-stampede-police-us.html

1 guy is what you use to support your statement? You can find 1 person to support almost any claim you have no matter how insane it is.

In fact let us forcibly steralize people that have IQ below 115. By force, no exception. I guarantee there are people that would support that statement.
 
You guys are strange. You see the problem, agree that people in your country are getting killed by firearms way more then in other developed countries ( lets not talk about Honduras, Jamaica, Gwatemala or Swazilend), yet you do not want to change anything to improve it. All you do is crying about your constitutional rights to carry a gun.
Let me ask you this - how do you feel when you visit other countries where you can't have gun? Feel unsafe and scared? Looking over your shoulder all the time? I am very interested to know.

I'm interested, AK... if you were an American policy maker, how would you go about disarming the public? What would be your strategy to account for the 300+ million guns out there? Laws? Mandating that guns must be relinquished will likely elicit cooperation only from those who are the most responsible with their firearms in the first place. I would be surprised if such an action was able to recover 10% of privately owned guns. Taking them by force would be an impossible and unsafe undertaking.

Also, I feel like your username unnecessarily glorifies military style weapons. It makes me uncomfortable.
 
I'm interested, AK... if you were an American policy maker, how would you go about disarming the public? What would be your strategy to account for the 300+ million guns out there? Laws? Mandating that guns must be relinquished will likely elicit cooperation only from those who are the most responsible with their firearms in the first place. I would be surprised if such an action was able to recover 10% of privately owned guns. Taking them by force would be an impossible and unsafe undertaking.

Also, I feel like your username unnecessarily glorifies military style weapons. It makes me uncomfortable.

Attempting to take them by force would split this country down the middle and result in civil war. Guarantee it.

As for mandating it and the most responsible ones cooperating I think that all depends. I consider my self very reliable and safe with my weapons. I would not comply. Period.
 
1 guy is what you use to support your statement? .

No, it is just example. Thats what I asked how you guys feel when traveling. So far only you answered that you fell safe and have no need for gun while visiting other countries. Gentlemen from above storry did not feel safe and wished he would had gun. Need more responses.
 
No, it is just example. Thats what I asked how you guys feel when traveling. So far only you answered that you fell safe and have no need for gun while visiting other countries. Gentlemen from above storry did not feel safe and wished he would had gun. Need more responses.

I am sure you will find a wide range of answers for a wide range of reasons. It is possible to be fearful of traveling in a foreign land and it having nothing to do with the prescense, or lack thereof, of firearms.
 
I'm interested, AK... if you were an American policy maker, how would you go about disarming the public? What would be your strategy to account for the 300+ million guns out there? Laws? Mandating that guns must be relinquished will likely elicit cooperation only from those who are the most responsible with their firearms in the first place. I would be surprised if such an action was able to recover 10% of privately owned guns. Taking them by force would be an impossible and unsafe undertaking.

Also, I feel like your username unnecessarily glorifies military style weapons. It makes me uncomfortable.

This is tough question which I am not sure I am able to answer - Stoked pointed that I do no understand americans which in a way is true. I probably would start at creating gun registry/licensing system, more thorough background checks and psychological assessement prior issuing weapons. Maybe limit amount of guns to 1 per person - that should be plenty for self defense purposes. Promote and encourage usage of non fatal guns like gas guns for self defense.
I am more interested what you guys think needs to be done - as it is I am ok with gun control laws in my country.
 
As for mandating it and the most responsible ones cooperating I think that all depends. I consider my self very reliable and safe with my weapons. I would not comply. Period.

What I meant was, those that would comply would likely fall into the category of responsible, not that all responsible gun owners would comply.
 
I believe there is not. Removing all guns would stop gun violence. But would it lower the rate of overall violence? If not, then what have gained by banning guns?

Lives. Gun violence is more deadly than other forms.
 
Mandating that guns must be relinquished will likely elicit cooperation only from those who are the most responsible with their firearms in the first place. I would be surprised if such an action was able to recover 10% of privately owned guns.

I may have misunderstood. Did you mean that over 90% of the guns are in the hands of those are are not among the most responsible with their firearms?
 
This is tough question which I am not sure I am able to answer - Stoked pointed that I do no understand americans which in a way is true. I probably would start at creating gun registry/licensing system, more thorough background checks and psychological assessement prior issuing weapons. Maybe limit amount of guns to 1 per person - that should be plenty for self defense purposes. Promote and encourage usage of non fatal guns like gas guns for self defense.
I am more interested what you guys think needs to be done - as it is I am ok with gun control laws in my country.

Link mental health and felony records to background checks
Remove gun free zones.
Have all local schools, from headstart - universities, coordinate with local PD to get an officer on campus during operating hours.
Require a shooting course designed to demonstrate familiarity of the weapon before issuing a CC.
Make one states CC recognized by all others
Improve the mental health screening and assistance availability to people starting when they are in high school.
Promote a national gun safety program. Like hunters ed but on a larger scale.
 
I may have misunderstood. Did you mean that over 90% of the guns are in the hands of those are are not among the most responsible with their firearms?

I questioned this as well. His claification leads me to think that of those who do comply they will be from amoung the most responsible. Not that all responsible owners would comply.
 
This is tough question which I am not sure I am able to answer - Stoked pointed that I do no understand americans which in a way is true. I probably would start at creating gun registry/licensing system, more thorough background checks and psychological assessement prior issuing weapons. Maybe limit amount of guns to 1 per person - that should be plenty for self defense purposes. Promote and encourage usage of non fatal guns like gas guns for self defense.

That's great, but none of those measures address guns already in the hands of American citizens. I've said it twice already, but what the heck... 300+ million.

I am more interested what you guys think needs to be done.

Personally, I think we need to quit dancing around the root problem. I've stated before, I'm okay with thorough background checks. But I think the problem lies much deeper in the American psyche. We've gotten to a point where we're either afraid to offend anyone (lest the wrath of the nation come down upon us) or basically apathetic toward others. So, instead of certain behaviors being recognized as abnormal, they're "different" or "unique", and are allowed to go unchecked, or just ignored. Then someone flips out and commits a heinous act, and everyone panics. Logic goes out the window, and opportunistic partisan politics use it it to grind their agenda. And now that the country is so polarized, politically, instead of looking for real solutions, we'd rather get in slap fights about whether or not the 2nd amendment is still valid.
 
I may have misunderstood. Did you mean that over 90% of the guns are in the hands of those are are not among the most responsible with their firearms?

No. Not even close. I am not going to ride this tangent with you, Brow.
 
We've gotten to a point where we're either afraid to offend anyone (lest the wrath of the nation come down upon us) or basically apathetic toward others. So, instead of certain behaviors being recognized as abnormal, they're "different" or "unique", and are allowed to go unchecked, or just ignored. Then someone flips out and commits a heinous act, and everyone panics.

So, we would need to intervene with these people somehow?
 
So, we would need to intervene with these people somehow?

If it's possible, yes. But it goes beyond just people who may or may not snap, emotionally. A big part of the problem is how we treat each other. Everyone contributes, one way or the other.

We need to stop being so mean and impatient. Stop neglecting. Stop bullying.

We are reaping the fruits of our behavior.
 
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