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Following potential 2013 draftees

All these mock drafts are so random, I'm basically done looking at them or reading anything into them. Generally, the top 8 players are set. After that, the field is pretty flat. I'd be very happily surprised if McCollum were there at #14.
 
Hotttnickkk said:
Bro.. I just changed the strategy to bring in Landry instead. Could we please discuss that rather than going back and talking about spoiled milk?
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Why on earth are you so confident Landry will have less market value than Sap, and why do you want to sign a vet that will HAVE to play anyway? And why, to lessen the ability of the Jazz to absorb contracts... to, what, make the playoffs?
 
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idiot said:
Numberica, just curious: still interested in Nemanja Nedovic? I haven't heard much about him this year. I see he's right behind Kabongo in DX mock, right in the neighborhood of the 46 pick.
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I'm amazed you remember that. Basically, I bought into Nedovic strictly because Givony was/is so high on him, his efficiency be damned. I've learned in the meantime that even though Givony is the best draft analyst that I know of, everyone can be wrong and everyone has their pet likes and dislikes. I've cooled quite a bit on him, but wouldn't be upset if the Jazz drafted him. But I am more interested in James Ennis, Erik Murphy, Alex Abrines, maybe even BONGO. I'm sure someone that I like more will slip as well.
 
PointGod_AlecBurks said:
he could play on my team any day of the week...

most jazzfanz in this thread really dont like him because of lack of shooting, i think hes got great upside and fits the jazz perfect, and im hopeful his shot improveshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7hyO_5Hf2M
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What does he do great? If his shooting is off.. what does he bring the team (and please don't say energy or hustle).
 
PKM said:
What does he do great? If his shooting is off.. what does he bring the team (and please don't say energy or hustle).
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Energy, hustle, athleticism, length, rebounding from the guard position, defense...basically everything but shooting.
 
PKM said:
What does he do great? If his shooting is off.. what does he bring the team (and please don't say energy or hustle).
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in the case of franklin, i like him at 21 and hate em at 14, i have him somewhere in the upper teens, so hes good value for us at 21, in my book.

when im looking at a player outside of the lottery i always ask myself, what would this player need to do to be a surefire lotto pick, with franklin thats obvious, shoot high %'s

to directly answer your question, right away he brings us an able body, whos focused and can be trusted to give 110% effort in whatever task he is assigned.

now he has bust potential or hed be in the lottery but i say his best case is a nice one if the jumpshot improves.

i particularly like this kids awareness/anticipation his shot isnt the prettiest but its a quick release, what makes me want to draft him, and reminds me of Iman Shumpert is his first step, i like this player as a project at 21

Jamaal Franklin once knocked his tooth out on the rim dunking the ball...
 
PointGod_AlecBurks said:
in the case of franklin, i like him at 21 and hate em at 14, i have him somewhere in the upper teens, so hes good value for us at 21, in my book.

when im looking at a player outside of the lottery i always ask myself, what would this player need to do to be a surefire lotto pick, with franklin thats obvious, shoot high %'s

to directly answer your question, right away he brings us an able body, whos focused and can be trusted to give 110% effort in whatever task he is assigned.

now he has bust potential or hed be in the lottery but i say his best case is a nice one if the jumpshot improves.

i particularly like this kids awareness/anticipation his shot isnt the prettiest but its a quick release, what makes me want to draft him, and reminds me of Iman Shumpert is his first step, i like this player as a project at 21

Jamaal Franklin once knocked his tooth out on the rim dunking the ball...
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Meh... I'd rather have Bullock. I think he's the best 2-way player in this draft.
 
NUMBERICA said:
I'm amazed you remember that. Basically, I bought into Nedovic strictly because Givony was/is so high on him, his efficiency be damned. I've learned in the meantime that even though Givony is the best draft analyst that I know of, everyone can be wrong and everyone has their pet likes and dislikes. I've cooled quite a bit on him, but wouldn't be upset if the Jazz drafted him. But I am more interested in James Ennis, Erik Murphy, Alex Abrines, maybe even BONGO. I'm sure someone that I like more will slip as well.
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Yeah, his production/efficiency has unfortunately not taken much of a step up.
 
Thee jazz fan said:
I can't help but think that if we don't get CJ we are going to regret not trading up for this guy.
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Curious, just as a hypothetical question for everyone: what do you realistically think it would take to move up in this year's draft at each position:

1) Cavs
2) Magic
3) Wizards
4) Charlotte
5) Suns
6) New Orleans
7) Kings
8) Pistons
9) Timberwolves
10) Blazers
11) 76ers
12) Thunder
13) Mavs

I'm curious to see at each spot (or whatever spot you want to speculate on) what you think we could reasonably offer (that they might accept). It will be interesting to see whether this year's draft, despite rumblings about teams willing to trade down, turns out to have as few up/down trades as last year's.
 
Hotttnickkk said:
He doesn't pass the eye test for being "quick", "fast", and "nimble" enough to play the PG for me... sorry...

Steph Curry was quick and nimble.
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For me he does, yes he's not as fast, but fast enough, as far as being nimble, he's every bit the ball handler Curry is. He doesn't move like Curry, think Deron Williams with McCollums shot. With your eye test CJ looks similar to D-Will dribbling the ball.
 
idiot said:
Curious, just as a hypothetical question for everyone: what do you realistically think it would take to move up in this year's draft at each position:

1) Cavs (Favors or Kanter)
2) Magic (Favors)
3) Wizards (Favors or Kanter)
4) Charlotte (Favors, Kanter, or Hayward + #14)
5) Suns (Hayward + #14)
6) New Orleans (Burks or Hayward + #14)
7) Kings (who knows?)
8) Pistons (Hayward or Burks)
9) Timberwolves (Burks)
10) Blazers (#14 + #21)
11) 76ers (#14 + #21)
12) Thunder (don't think they'd play ball with us)
13) Mavs (future first or salary dump + 2nd round pick)
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Thee jazz fan said:
For me he does, yes he's not as fast, but fast enough, as far as being nimble, he's every bit the ball handler Curry is. He doesn't move like Curry, think Deron Williams with McCollums shot. With your eye test CJ looks similar to D-Will dribbling the ball.
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Well I'd much prefer a Tony Parker type PG who's quick, drive and dish.. than a DWill type... at the PG position.

Similar to how Spurs have their team set up with a quick nimble Parker, dishing out to 3pt shooters in Green & Leonard.

#Drive&Dish
 
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