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Pretty sure a player like Mark Eaton wouldn't be getting eaten (heh) alive by Hibbert. The Heat have built their entire defense on covering ground and thwarting penetration (by having bigs with relatively nimble feet that can also allow them to contest in help [which usually means a sacrifice of size and/or strength]). It's no surprise or secret that if anything would undo the Heat it would be strong post play from BOTH big positions because it would force them to think twice about using their generally hyper-effective small ball unit(s).

That same offensive strategy wasn't as effective against the Spurs (Grizzlies) as what the Warriors did (had). What the Warriors do would also be less effective against the Heat as the Heat could help off of any center they threw out there and would get out-small-balled.

I don't like the idea of wholesale truth to pro-sports. Every year, every fan and every team sees what's effective in the playoffs and treat it like it's gospel when the reality is that a whole lot of this is how you matchup, the general talent level of the teams, chemistry, and strategy. Just like in Jr. Jazz or in a pickup game.

What Miami has done defensively has generally been EXTEMELY effective and there are plenty of examples of teams relying on starting Cs who couldn't really score reliably (Tyson Chandler, Kendrick Perkins, Ben Wallace, anyone on the Heat [who also can't guard the post against a good player which isn't a problem against 90% of the league anyway]).

There are some hard and fast rules in play (YOU NEED STARS, space the floor, defend the paint), but really, just build the best team you can given the insane number of variables.
 
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I could see Dallas taking a Euro purely for the sake of securing cap space for a Dwight run. I believe Karasev and Giannis have both stated they'll be staying in Europe for a bit.

Just a thought.

Good point.



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I could see Dallas taking a Euro purely for the sake of securing cap space for a Dwight run. I believe Karasev and Giannis have both stated they'll be staying in Europe for a bit.

Just a thought.
If cap space is the primary concern, they trade the pick to shed guaranteed salary. Period.

BTW, I'm not sure the Jazz could or should draft Steven Adams (I wouldn't take him at 14, and I doubt he'd last to 21), but I'd draft the hell of out him if they got the Dallas pick. I think the guy could be a TREMENDOUS defender.
 
If cap space is the primary concern, they trade the pick to shed guaranteed salary. Period.

BTW, I'm not sure the Jazz could or should draft Steven Adams (I wouldn't take him at 14, and I doubt he'd last to 21), but I'd draft the hell of out him if they got the Dallas pick. I think the guy could be a TREMENDOUS defender.

Wow.. we agreed on both points.
 
Hey guys, I've got a quick question. How are you guys pronouncing "Schroeder"?

Is it "Schroeder" as in rhyming with "shoulder"? (this is my pronouciation)

Or

Is it "Schroeder" as in rhyming with "scooter"? (this is how Locke says it)
 
sh - rude - er is how fran fraschilla was pronouncing it during the nike hoops summit game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtrJ3kWJVz0

i prefer we call him, tho

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i hope he gets drafted somewhere exciting, lightning quick, plays reeeealy fast, i love this kid's game
 
How you guys feel about Tony Snell from New Mexico, he seems like a Kawhi Leonard type of player. Both are similar size and great defenders, just like Leonard, Snell's shooting can improve.

Snell has not shown to be even an average defender. He could be but at this point he's not.
 
Just checking in. May not go through and read the 6 pages or so I missed from yesterday.. though I'm certain there are some gems of posts in there.

Anything earth-shattering from yesterday?
 
If cap space is the primary concern, they trade the pick to shed guaranteed salary. Period.

BTW, I'm not sure the Jazz could or should draft Steven Adams (I wouldn't take him at 14, and I doubt he'd last to 21), but I'd draft the hell of out him if they got the Dallas pick. I think the guy could be a TREMENDOUS defender.

If nobody is willing to give them much in a trade for the pick (worst darft evar alll guys are sucks!) why wouldnt it be possible they just stash a guy in Europe? Accomplishes the same thing salary cap wise.



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Just checking in. May not go through and read the 6 pages or so I missed from yesterday.. though I'm certain there are some gems of posts in there.

Anything earth-shattering from yesterday?

Just KKK claiming that he now loves everyone. We all know that's a lie.
 
Just checking in. May not go through and read the 6 pages or so I missed from yesterday.. though I'm certain there are some gems of posts in there.

Anything earth-shattering from yesterday?

i came back to post my lists, put up my top 31, then my mock, if i was drafting for each team.

ill put up my "how i think it plays out" (presuming 0 trades) mock soon,

maybe close to the draft ill do a mock with trades, for fun
 
i came back to post my lists, put up my top 31, then my mock, if i was drafting for each team.

ill put up my "how i think it plays out" (presuming 0 trades) mock soon,

maybe close to the draft ill do a mock with trades, for fun

Cool. Will go back and find it when I have a little more time.
 
1, CLE - Otto Porter
2, ORL - Trey Burke
3, WAS - Nerlens Noel
4, CHA - Victor Oladipo
5, PHX - Ben McLemore
6, NO - Alex Len
7, SAC - Anthony Bennett
8, DET - Michael Carter-Williams
9, MIN - Shabazz Muhammad
10, POR - Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
11, PHI - Steven Adams
12, OKC - Cody Zeller
13, DAL - Mason Plumlee
14, UTA - Dennis Schroeder
15, MIL - Kelly Olynyk
16, BOS - C.J. McCollum
17, ATL - Dario Saric
18, ATL - Jamaal Franklin
19, CLE - Shane Larkin
20, CHI - Tony Mitchell
21, UTA - Rudy Gobert
22, BKN - Tim Hardaway Jr.
23, IND - Giannis Antetokounmpo
24, NYK - Reggie Bullock
25, LAC - Glen Rice Jr.
26, MIN - Lucas Nogueira
27, DEN - Tony Snell
28, SAS - Sergey Karasev
29, OKC - Allen Crabbe
30, PHO - Jeff Withey

this is kinda of how i think it will play out(0 trades), team needs taken into account

and other mock drafts' consensus kept in mind too, slightly
 
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Also, if Hibbert continues to shine due to his size I can see that dramatically changing this draft for most teams.

Roy Hibbert compares favorably with all of the really big players in this draft, other than Noel and Len. i can assure you of this.

but i think you maybe correct, i infact showed up to jazzfanz, first post was about this drafts' centers and could the jazz procure a steal in the "2nd or 3rd teir group of C's" (i was targeting Isaiah Austin at the time)

if the jazz could land Gobert@ 21 id be really excited about it, His Standing reach is the largest measured for nba prospects
 
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