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TMac thinks kids should have to stay 2 years in college

scootsy

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I found this quote though to be especially enlightening.


"It was pretty difficult becoming a man so early and competing against grown men," McGrady said. "You're the best player on the floor in high school and then you come face the best players in the world. Also, the transition to living on your own, having to deal with the traveling, dealing with the different climaxes, getting into cities at 2 or 3 in the morning and then waking up the next morning for shootarounds and practices. I mean, it was a culture shock."
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hmmmm... i'm interested.

he also said that talent league-wide is down. your thoughts?


source: https://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-...-nba-players-two-years-college-140820214.html
 
I feel like the talent is down.. but I don't know that, of course.

I don't think kids should HAVE to stay in college for two years.. but I DO think the NBA (league, owners, coaches) should want that rule;

1) More mature when they get to a team.
2) More time to evaluate the talent and choose on whom you spend your money.
3) Much more NBA viewership (the longer kids attend their college the more likely the collegiate fan base will follow their NBA careers).
4) Somewhat solves an injury issue.. a kid gets hurt their freshman year and comes out... and they have little opportunity to evaluate.
 
Most guys go pro for the $. Not because they think they are fully ready. It's easy to argue that they aren't as ready as they would be by playing a few years in college.
 
How does he know the talent level is down? He doesn't play. And if the talent level is indeed down, and yet he still doesn't play, what does that say about his talent level?
 
Im all for bumping the age limit to 2 years. Its a no brainer for team owners for all the reasons pkm listed and more. I'm shocked that it hasn't been changed yet. I'd even be for 3 or 4 years. I think its severely dragging down the nba product by having a bunch of kids joining early.
 
Hack said:
Im all for bumping the age limit to 2 years. Its a no brainer for team owners for all the reasons pkm listed and more. I'm shocked that it hasn't been changed yet. I'd even be for 3 or 4 years. I think its severely dragging down the nba product by having a bunch of kids joining early.
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Calipari has advocated a 3yr rule citing how much of a change a kid makes by that time... also, that UK has had three first round guys that got their degrees in three years.
A lot of these kids really do want to get their degrees (poythress is one of them.. as was Brandon Knight and others).. and they can do it in 3 years.

Calipari does think, though, that the kids need to get $4 - 5,000 per year from the university to have some spending money ... especially since the universities are raking in millions off of them.
 
Before this year, I haven't watched a non-Jazz game since Jordan. I really, really enjoyed basketball this year. I sat around thinking about it, and I feel like it has to do with one thing: the one year waiting period. Kids are better coming into the league. They have more "basketball" skills than just one on one. "Teams" are winning again.

Look at the final four NBA teams:

San Antonio
Memphis
Indiana
Miami

Only one of those teams wasn't a "team", and that was Miami. The other three all played tough defense, had set offenses that was more than give it to one guy and everyone else get out of the way.

A two year waiting period would just make it even better.
 
PKM said:
Calipari has advocated a 3yr rule citing how much of a change a kid makes by that time... also, that UK has had three first round guys that got their degrees in three years.
A lot of these kids really do want to get their degrees (poythress is one of them.. as was Brandon Knight and others).. and they can do it in 3 years.

Calipari does think, though, that the kids need to get $4 - 5,000 per year from the university to have some spending money ... especially since the universities are raking in millions off of them.
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I agree that kids should get paid. The problem is, how do you pay the kids at USC, Kentucky, Notre Dame and not destroy sports for the kids at North Dakota State, Weber State, etc. I don't think you can have Title 9 AND pay athletes, and that is just the first issue when it comes to paying athletes.
 
This is also why I fully expect to see the "Big 5" football conferences leave the NCAA in 12 years. I think this playoff system is a trial run (especially if they go though with their threats to all play 8 conference games and only play OOC games against each other) to see if they can be profitable on their own. Then when they leave the NCAA, they will pay athletes and it will essentially become a minor leagues for the NFL.
 
infection said:
How does he know the talent level is down? He doesn't play. And if the talent level is indeed down, and yet he still doesn't play, what does that say about his talent level?
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Proof the talent is down: He is currently on the Spurs roster. If the talent was up, a washed up old, crappy vet like McGrady wouldn't be on a team.
 
green said:
This is also why I fully expect to see the "Big 5" football conferences leave the NCAA in 12 years. I think this playoff system is a trial run (especially if they go though with their threats to all play 8 conference games and only play OOC games against each other) to see if they can be profitable on their own. Then when they leave the NCAA, they will pay athletes and it will essentially become a minor leagues for the NFL.
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I think you're right. The NCAA will either be pushed aside or there will, at least, be sweeping changes. Everyone is sick of the NCAA.
 
Sort of an anti-climax at this point. Might as well just go to bed.
 
1- Student athletes should have to stay in college for 3 years.

2-The NBA should run a short 3 week summer league where incoming freshman, freshman and sophomores compete and get paid a small amount of money.

While this won't end corruption at the college level I think it would reduce it somewhat. And over time the product will improve significantly.
 
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