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How the Utah Jazz Can Draft Victor Oladipo

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How the Utah Jazz Can Draft Victor OladipoBroox Anderson
Jan 30, 2013; West Lafayette, IN, USA; Indiana Hoosiers guard Victor Oladipo (4) dunks against Purdue Boilermakers forward Donnie Hale (15) at Mackey Arena. Indiana defeats Purdue 97-40. Mandatory Credit: Brian Spurlock-USA TODAY Sports

ANNABELLA, UT—3:36 P.M.—Victor Oladipo has been credited as the next Dwyane Wade. A member of our staff has analyzed him as the best player in the draft. With the fourteenth overall pick, what can the Jazz do to get him?
The spark that ignited the writing of this article was provided by Jazz GM Dennis Lindsey, who said:
Our plan is to be very aggressive in the draft in relation to moving up. We have the ability to do that as of today.
- Dennis Lindsey, Jazz GM
Huge statement. Even more huge when you consider this coming from the tight-lipped Jazz front office. But, wait: “We have the ability to do that as of today.”
That caught my eye, so I delved a little further into that statement.

  • Utah’s salary cap remains intact until July 1st, after the draft. This means that they won’t be sporting their infamous financial flexibility going into Thursday’s draft. They will after July 1st, however, have that flexibility.
  • The Jazz currently have fifteen players on their roster. Nine of them are untradeable due to the NBA’s collective bargaining agreement rules—they are set to become free agents/have an ETO: Al Jefferson, Paul Millsap, Mo Williams, Randy Foye, Marvin Williams, Earl Watson, Jamaal Tinsley, DeMarre Carroll, and Jerel McNeal.
  • Six players remain under contract for the following year, and are tradeable: Gordon Hayward, Derrick Favors, Enes Kanter, Alec Burks, Jeremy Evans, and Kevin Murphy. Utah also owns the rights to international center Ante Tomic.
  • Realistically, Gordon Hayward will not be traded. Derrick Favors will not be traded. Neither will Enes Kanter or Jeremy Evans. Of the six, there are two guys who, understandingly, can be traded. Dennis Lindsey is saying the Jazz have the ability to move one, or both, of two young players to move up in the draft: Alec Burks and Kevin Murphy.
With that in mind, who/what could the Jazz possibly string together to compensate for a top pick?
Utah can send Alec Burks, the 14th overall pick, rights to Ante Tomic, and a future first- or second-round pick to the Orlando Magic. In return, they receive the second overall pick in the draft. The trade:
Utah Jazz:2nd overall pick in 2013(Trade Exception, Josh McRoberts deal.
Amount $2,111,160.)-Orlando Magic:Alec Burks, SGRights to Ante Tomic, C

14th overall pick in 2013
Future Second-Round Pick
In order to secure a high-caliber talent in such a weak draft, the Jazz will have to propel themselves to the second spot on the board, where they have the best chance of drafting Victor Oladipo. If they managed to get any lower than that, Oladipo would be playing with another team’s logo on his chest.
Orlando themselves could draft Oladipo if not offered a trade as enticing as Utah’s. Charlotte, Phoenix, and even New Orleans could all use a shooting guard of Oladipo’s caliber for their respective reasons.
The Magic have needs everywhere, and a young shooting/point guard with so much potential like Alec Burks who was the twelfth overall pick in 2011, and draft picks, would be too good to pass up.
The Jazz brass have always been adamant that they will draft “the best player available.” Well. Kevin O’Connor, Dennis Lindsey…
Meet Victor Oladipo.
 
If you were Orlando would you trade away a potential all-star for Burks and a potential role player at 14?

They would probably demand the 21st pick also. And I highly doubt that would do it also.

If the Jazz make a trade it is more likely that it happens with the 5th pick and down IMO.

I think you are correct thought about Burks and our draft picks to move up. Its probably our only option. 2nd pick for that package just seems like not enough.
 
Can't see why Orlando does this.
Not sure if this is enough for the #2 pick in draft.
Oladipo should be way better than Burks and the #14 pick.
 
If they loved him that much, they would have got him in here for a workout letting his agent know they intend to move up. The last time the Jazz drafted a player they didn't work out was Kosta Koufas, lesson learned.
 
If they loved him that much, they would have got him in here for a workout letting his agent know they intend to move up. The last time the Jazz drafted a player they didn't work out was Kosta Koufas, lesson learned.

That is true but we didn't work out Ronnie Brewer either. And I have seen multiple scouts say that if you need a private workout for the top 8 picks than you have horrible scouts. lol With the talent at the top of most drafts you don't need private workouts as much. The talent and there abilities are more obvious.

Some players like Trey Burke refuse to workout out for teams below. Ronnie Brewer did also.
 
That is true but we didn't work out Ronnie Brewer either. And I have seen multiple scouts say that if you need a private workout for the top 8 picks than you have horrible scouts. lol With the talent at the top of most drafts you don't need private workouts as much. The talent and there abilities are more obvious.

That applies to drafts with normal talent at the top though. The 2013 draft is historically weak. Guys rise by default and we naturally embellish them into something they are not. In February we were talking about if we would be happy with Oladipo as our second pick.
 
Yes this is weak. But there are certain players teams are willing to take a chance on. Especially if the guys at our 14th pick are pretty much the same as 21st pick.

Everyone can see the difference between the top 10 picks vs the picks below. There is a talent gap. And again some of those players refuse to do more workouts and they won't work out with the lower teams.
 
Wesley Johnson was worked out by a lot of teams.

Aminu was also.

Udoh
Xavier Henry.

These are recent busts. Private workouts are overrated
 
I really don't see how Olapido is that much better than Burks. Again I wouldn't trade up in this draft. WHo is to say that Goodwin, Rice Jr. , Ledo won't at least be as good as Olapido in a couple years. I am more excited about the bottom half of the draft than the top because the talent is not that different while the money is.
 
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I really don't see how Olapido is that much better than Burks. Again I wouldn't trade up in this draft. WHo is to say that Goodwin, Rice Jr. , Ledo won't better at least as good as Olapido in a couple years. I am more excited about the bottom half of the draft than the top because the talent is not that different while the money is.

Sound logic.
 
Besides, I want the Jazz to tank this year if we get a great player from this draft (not a typical great player) then we will miss out on a chance of getting a top pick next year. This year's draft most likely is to get a complimentary player or two. I don't think there are any superstars in this draft.
 
This is the first draft in my memory that I sincerely believe every single player has a chance of doing little to nothing in the league. I'm serious.

Noel? Could easily bust.
McLemore? Yep.
Oladipo? HELL yes.
Len. Sure.

and on and on...
 
Broox Anderson can suck a basketball.

I don't know who he is.

Or who he isn't.

But this "article" is ****. ****. ****. ****.

Throw his *** in prison. Swallow the key.

Jazz cannot move up dream scenario #2.

Guy is a dick.
 
I think there will be a lot of late 1st round and 2nd round picks that would be top ten in a redraft in a few years.
 
Wesley Johnson was worked out by a lot of teams.

Aminu was also.

Udoh
Xavier Henry.

These are recent busts. Private workouts are overrated

I don't like this comment.

You claim everything is worthless.

Workouts don't matter.

Just throw darts at the wall blindly.

I did not rep you.
 
I don't like this comment.

You claim everything is worthless.

Workouts don't matter.

Just throw darts at the wall blindly.

I did not rep you.

We have to have lunch. I just know you're some rainman kinda genius that can't tie his shoes. Love the trolling tho bro.. and I love you.
 
I don't like this comment.

You claim everything is worthless.

Workouts don't matter.

Just throw darts at the wall blindly.

I did not rep you.

So if you don't work out a player you are drafting blindly?? Really with how much film we have on players and the scouting throughout the years of them playing is not good enough? This isn't the 60's or 70's where we had to see every player in person play.

I am just making fun of the importance everyone puts on workouts. My point is workouts are only a small portion of what you look at in drafting a player.

I would say you pay scouts to do work on these players. And there is game film of all of these players. Not hard to watch and see the strengths and weaknesses.
Interview process can be important if they have character issues.

I never said they don't matter. I said they are overrated.

There were comments discussing how we didn't workout Koufos and we drafted him. And made a point about how that turned out bad because we did not work him out to find out. And my comment about those players was not that workouts don't matter. It was to point out how many times teams are deceived even with workouts. Game film matters more than any workout.

That is what I am addressing. Someone like Burke you don't need to workout. He is worth trading up for. I personally don't think Oladipo is worth trading up for though.
 
So Victor Oladipo is the best player in the draft, and the Magic want to trade their chance at the next Dwyane Wade for some loose change (the biggest coin playing the same position)?

Trades only make sense when teams are swapping things each respective party has an excess of and the other team needs.
 
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