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thanks for the reply PKM. I want to analyze him in detail as the year goes on.

Could this change if you see him shoot decently at Arizona this year?
Does this also mean Hayward can't be that deadly shooter from outside?

Another question. If you don't feel Hayward can draw people out of the paint is he truly the answer at that position?

I feel Gordon is the perfect pick for the Bobcats at the 3. They have a stretch 4, who doesn't possess a strong body. Their patience with MKG will prolly expire after this season. What I have seen so far from MKG both last season and after he allegedly worked on his shot this summer rings alarm bells for me. Either his muscle memory or his hand eye coordination are not a future NBA star worthy. He'd show more promise in shooting form and motion had he really the talent to be a good shooter. Won't even touch work ethic and stuff, as I don't know. Pretty sure he got his repetitions in.
So MJ wants Gordon, who'll attract fans to see his circus show. And everything more is a plus for both Gordon's contracts and the Bobcats success.

I think after the first 3 you can either go Exum or Harrison and I bet 1 of those two will be available at 7 even. The others don't have franchise player potential from what I've seen so far. Especially Gordon will be a slightly more talented Josh Smith. And you don't want that kinda guy to be your first option.
 
I feel Gordon is the perfect pick for the Bobcats at the 3. They have a stretch 4, who doesn't possess a strong body. Their patience with MKG will prolly expire after this season. What I have seen so far from MKG both last season and after he allegedly worked on his shot this summer rings alarm bells for me. Either his muscle memory or his hand eye coordination are not a future NBA star worthy. He'd show more promise in shooting form and motion had he really the talent to be a good shooter. Won't even touch work ethic and stuff, as I don't know. Pretty sure he got his repetitions in.
So MJ wants Gordon, who'll attract fans to see his circus show. And everything more is a plus for both Gordon's contracts and the Bobcats success.

I think after the first 3 you can either go Exum or Harrison and I bet 1 of those two will be available at 7 even. The others don't have franchise player potential from what I've seen so far. Especially Gordon will be a slightly more talented Josh Smith. And you don't want that kinda guy to be your first option.

A few questions for you. So you don't think Kanter can be a stretch 4/5?
Will Exum or Harrison co-exist with Burke? How does that work?
 
Pick BPA

You absolutely have to pick BPA in my opinion and to me that is clearly Andrew Harrison. Take him without even thinking or blinking. We'll be set at the PG for years and years. Andrew Harrison + Favors/Kanter alone would get us to the Western Conference Finals for YEARSSSSSSSSS AND YEARSSSSSSSS.

He can drive it. He can shoot it. He can run the team. He is quick and he draws foul. What more could we ask for?

Spurs Model

The Spurs Model is tried and tested. Remember who the Spurs have. They have a solid C in Duncan, they have a solid PG in Parker. The 1-2 punch right there. Then they simply fill out the rest of the roster with "3's and D's"... We already have Hayward for that - just pick another guy with the GSW pick that fills that role (GRIII, Aaron Harrison, Gary Harris) and we're set for LIFE.


So Burke is gone? We wasted our pick this year? ****
 
So Burke is gone? We wasted our pick this year? ****

??? How so??? If he develops well - GREAT - he's 1 more asset we have in our hands.

- Use him as a backup?

- Trade him for another '14 pick?

- Play Andrew Harrison off the ball at times?

So many options... the point is to accumulate valuable assets. Remember what HOU did to grab Harden?? Basically Jeremy Lamb, Kevin Martin and some picks. Burke will be a valuable asset whichever way you look at it.
 
??? How so??? If he develops well - GREAT - he's 1 more asset we have in our hands.

- Use him as a backup?

- Trade him for another '14 pick?

- Play Andrew Harrison off the ball at times?

So many options... the point is to accumulate valuable assets. Remember what HOU did to grab Harden?? Basically Jeremy Lamb, Kevin Martin and some picks. Burke will be a valuable asset whichever way you look at it.

I like where you are going
 
thanks for the reply PKM. I want to analyze him in detail as the year goes on.

Could this change if you see him shoot decently at Arizona this year?
Does this also mean Hayward can't be that deadly shooter from outside?

Another question. If you don't feel Hayward can draw people out of the paint is he truly the answer at that position?

Call it gut.. but I just don't feel the Gordon thing on the court with Favors and Kanter at the same time. I'm not sure how much improved shooting will change that. Not that I would take him that early, but someone like James Young who is fast, athletic, long, and an elite shooting lefty.. next to Hayward, seems more right to me. More balance on the floor.
 
I'm looking at plan B here. Let's say we fall into the 3-6 range which is fairly likely.
We'll be devastated having missed out on Wiggbari.

So who do we take?

Exum and Harrison are 1s right? Would we be getting them to play with Burke?
Do we get Smart to be a 1/2 combo guard?

Who do you guys want in my scenario?

Always bpa. Having said that.. AnHarrison or Exum would be highly likely targets. There's also a chance that a WCS type big may become just be too much to pass on around 5/6. I love speculating way early.. but obviously players will slide and rise throughout the year.
 
Andrew harrison is my favorite player in next years draft fyi.
 
Actually my favorite might be Isiah Austin, the kid with the really uneven face.

Idk, I will have to wait and see who is this year's OP.
 
??? How so??? If he develops well - GREAT - he's 1 more asset we have in our hands.

- Use him as a backup?

- Trade him for another '14 pick?

- Play Andrew Harrison off the ball at times?

So many options... the point is to accumulate valuable assets. Remember what HOU did to grab Harden?? Basically Jeremy Lamb, Kevin Martin and some picks. Burke will be a valuable asset whichever way you look at it.

Agree. When the Jazz drafted Maynor, who showed a lot of promise, they played Deron off the ball a little. Nothing says we HAVE to go with the traditional PG backed up by a second PG who gets 10-15 mins and have a 3-man rotation at the wings. Many teams use a combo guard to back up both guard positions. Burke, Harrison and Burks could be a pretty good rotation at the 1/2. Then Hayward plays SF. Maybe the Jazz look at a combo forward who could play SF and be a stretch-4 when needed. With Favors, Kanter and Gobert, you then have the 8 rotation players you need. Sorry Evans fans, I don't see him as a regular moving forward: not enough bulk to play PF and not enough range to be a SF. He's a great guy and I even say keep him around as the 9th/10th roster spot - for the right price.
 
A few questions for you. So you don't think Kanter can be a stretch 4/5?
Will Exum or Harrison co-exist with Burke? How does that work?

Someone brought up the stats a couple weeks ago about 90% of Kanter's makes being assisted when shooting from further than 10 or 15 ft. So he can hit an open jumper when his defender helps inside. Teams will always prefer to throw the extra defender inside and give up an open J than the other way round. If his skillset develops he may be a stretch four, but that's far from certain. Maybe the Jazz tell him to focus on 1 thing and just stay a threat that can hit open baseline Js. Detroit will struggle mightily unless their guards hit 40%+ on like 5+ attempts a game. And I don't mean just their starters. If they hit good, they'll be able to compensate their poor spacing by athleticism. But it's a huge gamble. And in case they bring in Rondo(Which would be more than borderline retarded) expect them to suck hard. Jazz shouldn't take that gamble before they know they have multiple players whose skillset contains good shooting. So I'm not convinced Kanter will play more perimeter, not judging his ability to do it. Just the intent of the coaching staff.

Exum is a SG to me, so he could mesh with Burke. Andrew is a PG ofc, but his shot could probably allow him to play off the ball at times and his size enables him to defend most SG. So think of the Bulls rotation, where they can move Hinrich on SG. But I expect Burke to be traded after his 3rd season, if he doesn't turn into an efficient player. That's what he needs to do. Work the angles to find his primary options(#1 from 2014 and Kanter) in their sweet spots. Attack the basket out of the pick and roll and try to maximize efficiency out of that. That's obviously big hurdles, and if he can't get the latter going he'll find himself sooner or later out of the league. So basically every scenario is thinkable. 3 guy guard rotation, where everyone getts 30 min playing time in the regular season and performance reliant playoff minutes. If both Burke and Harrison/Exum are too good to keep off the floor, FO has to decide who's the better asset in comparison how much he can contribute to a Western Conference Finals series. I don't wanna hate but there's guys that are good baller and have awesome stats and pass the eye test 90% of the time, but struggle against elite teams who're likely being annual Conference Finals participants.

Edit: wanted to add to the Kanter topic to take a look at DeMarcus Cousins. He can hit threes, drive to the hoop, has a decent midrange game, can bang inside, can play with the back to the basket. But you only have so much time to work on your game...get your repetitions, "suffer" treatment, lifting weights, work on your ballhandling, doing your back to the basket game. Look at DMC he's a jack of all trades, master of none. That hurts him until he decides what his main weapons are. Kanter should find a couple sweet spots and have multiple moves from there to get the ball to the hoop. That's way more important than adding range in his first season as a starter.
 
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Someone brought up the stats a couple weeks ago about 90% of Kanter's makes being assisted when shooting from further than 10 or 15 ft. So he can hit an open jumper when his defender helps inside. Teams will always prefer to throw the extra defender inside and give up an open J than the other way round. If his skillset develops he may be a stretch four, but that's far from certain. Maybe the Jazz tell him to focus on 1 thing and just stay a threat that can hit open baseline Js. Detroit will struggle mightily unless their guards hit 40%+ on like 5+ attempts a game. And I don't mean just their starters. If they hit good, they'll be able to compensate their poor spacing by athleticism. But it's a huge gamble. And in case they bring in Rondo(Which would be more than borderline retarded) expect them to suck hard. Jazz shouldn't take that gamble before they know they have multiple players whose skillset contains good shooting. So I'm not convinced Kanter will play more perimeter, not judging his ability to do it. Just the intent of the coaching staff.

Exum is a SG to me, so he could mesh with Burke. Andrew is a PG ofc, but his shot could probably allow him to play off the ball at times and his size enables him to defend most SG. So think of the Bulls rotation, where they can move Hinrich on SG. But I expect Burke to be traded after his 3rd season, if he doesn't turn into an efficient player. That's what he needs to do. Work the angles to find his primary options(#1 from 2014 and Kanter) in their sweet spots. Attack the basket out of the pick and roll and try to maximize efficiency out of that. That's obviously big hurdles, and if he can't get the latter going he'll find himself sooner or later out of the league. So basically every scenario is thinkable. 3 guy guard rotation, where everyone getts 30 min playing time in the regular season and performance reliant playoff minutes. If both Burke and Harrison/Exum are too good to keep off the floor, FO has to decide who's the better asset in comparison who much he can contribute to a Western Conference Finals series. I don't wanna hate but there's guys that are good baller and have awesome stats and pass the eye test 90% of the time, but struggle against elite teams who're likely being annual Conference Finals participants.

Very good post. Agree with all of it that I botherer to read.
 
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