Following potential 2014 draftees
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A-Train (old)
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Pretty much a finished product. No potential.
Just saying MKG has a broken shot and can't handle the ball.
All of that, and the Bobcats (err.... Hornets) got Jefferson and Zeller, so they are going to be playing a lot of half-court basketball. Not a good for MKG.
All of that, and the Bobcats (err.... Hornets) got Jefferson and Zeller, so they are going to be playing a lot of half-court basketball. Not a good for MKG.
A-Train (old)
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Taylor is 24 and MKG is 19.
A-Train (old)
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Taylor's jupshot isn't the best looking either. Damn another thing Porter's shot looks like Brewer's and Taylor's isn't that good. Fetish much?
A-Train (old)
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From the almighty DX:
Taylor sports a slow, deliberate release, not looking all that confident hoisting up shots past 17-18 feet, and seeing streaky results even from that range.
Taylor sports a slow, deliberate release, not looking all that confident hoisting up shots past 17-18 feet, and seeing streaky results even from that range.
Taylor shot a solid 35% from deep his rookie year.
He looked like a NBA player in SL. I could tell he noticeably improved every aspect of his game.
MKG looked like the same player he was last year.
He looked like a NBA player in SL. I could tell he noticeably improved every aspect of his game.
MKG looked like the same player he was last year.
A-Train (old)
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Yeah, he looked like a 24 year old. In my defense MKG shouldn't have gone #2 and I think everyone knows that.
This.. I had him mocked around 7/8.
I think the lack of pressure is helping him. Ball is in Marshall's hands, no questions asked. He can do what he's good at, that dribble drive game with an occasional pull up.
I think getting picked as late as he was is going to help him. Also the fact that most players are trying to "prove themselves" as well all at the same time (Morris Twins, Marshall, Bledsoe, Alex Len) puts even less pressure on him to be outstanding. He can develop at his own pace without everyone scrutinizing everything he does (the way Calipari did - sorry PKM). I think the pressure to perform at UK was probably too much for him. They didn't have a legit PG to feed him the ball and he was still really young.
He'll be fine in Phoenix.
Nice cherry-picking from literally the second mention he ever got on that site from 4 years ago.
Let's talk about more relevant scouting from the same site:
Maybe your point is that MKG will suddenly dramatically improve as a jump-shooter and using Taylor as an example that that can happen. Maybe MKG fixes his busted-*** shot, but until he does, it's a busted-*** shot and he will struggle to stay on the court in a way that is beneficial to his team. At least for such a heralded, hyped player.
I agree, Numb. I so love MKG.. and I find it almost unfair he was taken #2.. but he's not going to be much more than a glue guy that rallies a team to practice harder, believe more, play tougher.. to a few more wins each year.
The UK guys I've hyped; Wall, Cousins, Kanter, Davis, DMiller (in the 2nd round)..
Those I was kind of on the fence; Knight, Lamb (though his lack of athleticism is a concern), Patterson, MKG (other than the intangibles .. I hyped the **** outta those).
Those I didn't like; Teague, Orton, Goodwin, Poythress
I'm also not convinced Noel can do much..
The UK guys I've hyped; Wall, Cousins, Kanter, Davis, DMiller (in the 2nd round)..
Those I was kind of on the fence; Knight, Lamb (though his lack of athleticism is a concern), Patterson, MKG (other than the intangibles .. I hyped the **** outta those).
Those I didn't like; Teague, Orton, Goodwin, Poythress
I'm also not convinced Noel can do much..
I think Charlotte is okay for MKG...With Zeller they have a player at another position who'll stretch the floor a little. That should compensate for MKG's lacking jumpshot. If I through the draft again, I see 3 guys who retrospective should have been taken earlier from that point(can change over the course of next season ofc) Bradley Beal, Damian Lillard and Andre Drummond. Beal was slightly undersized and Charlotte had Henderson already whom they liked, Lillard had that small school asterisk and Drummond had character red flags if I'm not mistaken. So it's okay I guess. If MKG entered this year's draft, he'd have been the 3rd youngest player behind Goodwin, Noel and 1 week older than Schröder to put that into perspective. If we comepare him this year to the peers his age, I think he doesn't look that bad any longer.
Even if he doesn't develop that shot he'll still have a roster spot on teams that have outside shooting on the big positions and he can look for other ways to score. Faceup game from midrange, back to the basket game. And if all fails having a high energy guy who cleans the boards and plays hard defense isn't that bad either. I like MKG!
@PKM out of your hype list none has made an all-NBA team or allstar game yet! When's that going to change? I btw don't remember you giving Goodwin a hard time. All I remember is: Tremendous upside, but very raw and major questionmarks in his game.
Even if he doesn't develop that shot he'll still have a roster spot on teams that have outside shooting on the big positions and he can look for other ways to score. Faceup game from midrange, back to the basket game. And if all fails having a high energy guy who cleans the boards and plays hard defense isn't that bad either. I like MKG!
@PKM out of your hype list none has made an all-NBA team or allstar game yet! When's that going to change? I btw don't remember you giving Goodwin a hard time. All I remember is: Tremendous upside, but very raw and major questionmarks in his game.
Of those players I mentioned none have been in the league more than two or three years and most only spent one year of college. Patience..
Also, I wasn't meaning to hype myself in that post.. just set the record straight.
As to Goodwin... during the season I said (here) that he's an '*** clown' .. I said I 'hope' he goes pro... I said his shot is flat as ****..
You are right that I also said there's some things he does well.....
It's important to note that people who follow recruiting from early on will change their opinion not only based on the current play, but on the changing mocks..
For example, I hated Goodwin when he was being mocked top 10.... when he was suddenly being mocked 2nd round I loved his him.. Get me?
I actually rather wanted to have your prediction when to expect an Calpari allstar than to give you a hard time that it didn't happen yet. Out of his Memphis crew only Rose has developed into a superstar...
I guess since I wasn't following this board before the draftprocess began I haven't seen those changes in your Goodwin evaluation. Only what you said right at the end. But have you seen him play in the games or just the highlights? I have seen most of the games and I have to say I see him right in the top 7 of rookies that I've been impressed with. His release point is high enough, consistent, shooting form isn't flat anymore. He must have enjoyed some good individual training after the Kentucky 1st round NIT exit. His body looks NBA ready too. Maybe he can add a couple lbs of useful muscle but that's about it. If he continues to work on his handle I see him scoring in multiple ways. And at his age he doesn't need a midrange game yet. How do you like his defense?