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Ron Mahoney Sports Illustrated article talking about Alec Burks

Dudes,

I'm laying out some basic sketches with the idea that Burks can be a critical scoring option in the starting lineup. My first response in this thread was taken as justification for Burks coming off the bench. That was stupid as ****. I said so. Then green started whiffing. Then a high schooler stepped his little bitch *** out of line.

Burks is one of my favorites.
 
I think burks should start and be the first option on offense.
Have burks in the pick and roll with favors early and often

Run isolations with burks a lot.

Go way up tempo with lots of fast breaks with burks being the main finisher

Have burks coming off screens for mid range jumpers.

Run burks cutting along the baseline for alley oops and lay ups
 
Last year was alfense/jeffy ball

This year... all burks all the time baby
 
fishonjazz said:
I think burks should start and be the first option on offense.
Have burks in the pick and roll with favors early and often

Run isolations with burks a lot.

Go way up tempo with lots of fast breaks with burks being the main finisher

Have burks coming off screens for mid range jumpers.

Run burks cutting along the baseline for alley oops and lay ups
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fishonjazz said:
Last year was alfense/jeffy ball

This year... all burks all the time baby
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how dare you assume Burks will be the fourth/fifth option in teh offense!!!!1!
Oh.... wait....
 
[size/HUGE] fixed [/size];630752 said:
I don't understand the argument that bringing him off the bench will help him. It may be the case that Rush is a better fit with the other starters, but it is most cetainly the case that playing alongside Hayward, Burke, Favors, and Kanter would be better than playing alongside scrub A through D. Who'll give him room to work in that lineup? ****, fellas. ****.
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Just because Burks is the 6th man does not mean he won't play with the starters. I want Burks to my get around 30mpg. A lot of that will be with starters.
 
My main reason I say make Burks 6th man is this:

Rush and Hayward is a better perimeter shooting tandem than Hayward and Burks or Burks and Rush. I want to start the game with spreading the floor as much as possible. At that point it is pick your poison. Defend the good perimeter shooters and let our strong bigs have their way with a pair of D playing wings hanging back or...

D the bigs and let some superb perimeter shooters start shooting while we have elite level rebounding at the hoop.

It is all about getting an offensive game going early. About the team not one player. I love Burks, he is a stud
 
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The best place for Burks may very well be sixth man but I think it would be insane not to give him 40-50 starts first to see if he can stake a claim in The Jazz' starting unit.
 
I don't see it as a guarantee that Rush will be a better defender or shooter. Why would I assume that after a major injury and so much time off? after a strong finish for Burks?

I just have no ****ing clue how the group-think gets started. Why don't we spend more time speculating about what Burks will need to do in order to start rather than make a handful of sloppy assumptions about him (and Rush), then invent ways he should be used as a result of those assumptions. Waste of time.
 
[size/HUGE] fixed [/size];630988 said:
I don't see it as a guarantee that Rush will be a better defender or shooter. Why would I assume that after a major injury and so much time off? after a strong finish for Burks?

I just have no ****ing clue how the group-think gets started. Why don't we spend more time speculating about what Burks will need to do in order to start rather than make a handful of sloppy assumptions about him (and Rush), then invent ways he should be used as a result of those assumptions. Waste of time.
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Ok fair enough but you are making assumptions as well. I don't remember you trying to be such an *** before.
 
candrew said:
The best place for Burks may very well be sixth man but I think it would be insane not to give him 40-50 starts first to see if he can stake a claim in The Jazz' starting unit.
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You thinking straight starts or situational depending on the opponent?
 
What are my assumptions? That Burks needs to improve in a handful of ways in order start? Shoot me. That Rush may be limited cuz he destroyed his knee? Blasphemy.

Who the **** am I?
 
[size/HUGE] fixed [/size];630996 said:
What are my assumptions? That Burks needs to improve in a handful of ways in order start? Shoot me. That Rush may be limited cuz he destroyed his knee? Blasphemy.

Who the **** am I?
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That Burks should start.

That Burks should be more than a 3-4 option.

That Rush shouldn't start.


No better than those that are thinking Rush should. People talk about the team their ideas and thoughts all the time. I'm so sorry that you seem to have a problem with that.

Stop trying to be a dick and just talk to people.
 
[size/HUGE] fixed [/size];630752 said:
I don't understand the argument that bringing him off the bench will help him. It may be the case that Rush is a better fit with the other starters, but it is most cetainly the case that playing alongside Hayward, Burke, Favors, and Kanter would be better than playing alongside scrub A through D. Who'll give him room to work in that lineup? ****, fellas. ****.
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Well, in that scenario, he's option #4 at best (if Burke doesn't look for a shot). Coming off the bench, he's the leader of the 2nd group and the #1 scoring option. I actually like starting Rush or Jefferson, with either of those two out at the 3-pt line to provide outside shooting. Burks off the bench can utilize his driving ability.
 
Core4 said:
Well, in that scenario, he's option #4 at best (if Burke doesn't look for a shot). Coming off the bench, he's the leader of the 2nd group and the #1 scoring option. I actually like starting Rush or Jefferson, with either of those two out at the 3-pt line to provide outside shooting. Burks off the bench can utilize his driving ability.
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I do want to see Burks slash to the basket with Burke feeding him the ball. I want to see how that dynamic plays out.
 
Stoked said:
That Burks should start.

That Burks should be more than a 3-4 option.

That Rush shouldn't start.
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Just.plain.wrong.

I think its wrong to assume that Burks shouldn't start. He could very well earn that spot. And I lol at the dudes that assume a busted Rush who they've seen play less than 10 times should start.

I think it's wrong to assume that Burks' ceiling is a 3-4. It might be, but we'll struggle to score, so why wouldn't we want to put a scorer like Burks in the best spot to help?

It's VERY VERY plain to see that I acknowledge the possibility that Rush will start. It's in this thread. This is your biggest whiffff in a series of logical errors.
 
Core4 said:
Well, in that scenario, he's option #4 at best (if Burke doesn't look for a shot). Coming off the bench, he's the leader of the 2nd group and the #1 scoring option. I actually like starting Rush or Jefferson, with either of those two out at the 3-pt line to provide outside shooting. Burks off the bench can utilize his driving ability.
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Why? Because Favors, Kanter, Hayward, and Burke have proven track records as #1 options. Nope. Nope. Nope. These are the assumptions that fail hard.
 
We don't know how Rush will perform after injury.

Due to his awkward situation and development, we don't even know who Burks is.


Therefore it's ten steps into retard zone to be imagine minute distribution and rotations.
 
[size/HUGE] fixed [/size];630996 said:
What are my assumptions? That Burks needs to improve in a handful of ways in order start? Shoot me. That Rush may be limited cuz he destroyed his knee? Blasphemy.

Who the **** am I?
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wtf cares?
 
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