Archie Moses
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Dude has learned how to score with moves other than a dunk. It's amazing how much he's improved over the past few years.
Dwight Howard
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Archie Moses
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Can you imagine if he perfects that "Tim Duncan ban shot" over the next few years? Watch out.
The Thriller
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And yet they still lost by 26 to the Heat.
Maybe they should quit with us and shoot for the #1 lotto pick...
Maybe they should quit with us and shoot for the #1 lotto pick...
carolinajazz
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....the Magic have their own "albatross" hanging around there neck....a guy named Rashard Lewis, who I think makes more money than Klinko does! He can't hit the broad side of a barn anymore and plays virtually no defense! Nice box score last night: 0-9 with 3 turnovers!
Gyp Rosetti
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Last few years? he didn't even score 20/game last year if I remember correctly which was down from previous years. In other words, he was the same for a few years in a row.
Archie Moses
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Since Howard has come into the league, he's gotten better with his post moves. This year, it's noticeably better. He's not an offensive juggernaut as of now, but if his team would actually pass him the ball 5 possessions more per game rather than force a three, Howard would easily average 25 ppg this year. Also, in his six years in the league, he's only gone down in scoring once, so yeah, I would say he's improving.
Gyp Rosetti
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Archie, in 07/08, he averaged 20.7 ppg. He went down the following year to 20.6 and then down again last year to 18.3. That's two years in a row he went down and for you to say how much he's improved over the years is ludicrous. The guy is a hell of a specimen and can only average around 20 ppg? C'mon. It has little to do with their chucking up threes and more to do with his limited offensive game.
Archie Moses
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So are you arguing Howard hasn't improved (much) offensively since he has come into the league?
The Thriller
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Shaq averaged nearly 10 points more than Dwight at this stage of his career. Did Shaq have a better surrounding cast in Orlando? Was Shaq really that much more athletic?
I'm not a big fan of Dwight's offensive game at all. Maybe he's improving... who knows... But all i know is when he meets decent post defenders he falls apart and is shut down. Shaq, up until just the last few years, was the most dominate offensive threat in the league for a good 10-12 years. Could Dwight even be listed in the top 10 right now?
I'm not a big fan of Dwight's offensive game at all. Maybe he's improving... who knows... But all i know is when he meets decent post defenders he falls apart and is shut down. Shaq, up until just the last few years, was the most dominate offensive threat in the league for a good 10-12 years. Could Dwight even be listed in the top 10 right now?
Sorry, I would never call Shaq dominant.
Archie Moses
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Shaq is one of the top 5 most dominant players of all time, or at least has a good argument.
Prove it. With science. You would think a player that is top 5 most dominant would have one of these in his career...
scoring record
rebounding record
most points scored
highest season percentage
most blocks
Either as a career or in a season...
Archie Moses
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You're truly are a moron if you don't understand how Shaq is one of the most "dominate" players of all time. Especially in his prime.
4X NBA Champion
3X NBA Finals MVP
2000 MVP
2X Scoring champion
8X all NBA first team
More importantly, in his prime, he was literally unguardable. This is also coming from a guy who absolutely hates the guy. Oh, btw, I hate you too. It's a strong word, I know, but I do.
Gyp Rosetti
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You didn't say since he came into the league. You said the last few years. And he has not improved much at all over the last few years.
He hasn't. I'm 5'10' and might as well have better post moves than Howard. Now seriously - the guy uses his athleticism too much to force his will in the paint, sometimes it ends with a dunk, sometimes with a chuck... his back to the basket game lacks so much it is annoying. He has no mid range game to talk about. He moves so mechanically on offense it is like watch NBA live 2004...
Archie Moses
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It's obvious I'm arguing with people that haven't actually watched him play. This year alone (all of two games) shows how tricks he has up his sleeve.
