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Wiggins Sweep Stakes/Lottery Race

jazzrule

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Read this on Yahoo and thought I would cut and paste to shorten it. Thought it gave good insight on the teams close to playoff caliber in the east, and listed those who will be in the Wiggins race. If the Jazz get less than 35 wins, which many here on Jazzfanz are predicting, the teams in the east fighting us for lottery position would be the Magic, Hornets, 76ers and the Wizards.

In the NBA, eight teams from each conference make the playoffs. In the Eastern Conference, there are five undeniably better teams that will likely beat up on the young Celtics all season. Those five teams include: the Miami Heat, Chicago Bulls, Brooklyn Nets, Indiana Pacers and New York Knicks.

Of the 10 remaining teams, only three will get into the playoffs. We can immediately rule out the Orlando Magic, Charlotte Bobcats/Hornets, Philadelphia 76ers and Washington Wizards as contenders for the final three spots, bringing the list of competitive teams down to only six teams.

The future of the Boston Celtics next season hinges on how they play against the five teams they will be competing with for the final three playoff spots: the Atlanta Hawks, Milwaukee Bucks, Toronto Raptors, Detroit Pistons and Cleveland Cavaliers.

The Hawks still have Al Horford playing center, and they managed to pick up underrated veteran Paul Millsap to replace Smith, but the overall talent on the team definitely took a dip. They are, however, helped out by the fact that they play in the NBA's weakest division, which is why it looks like the Hawks will win around 35 games next season, which is likely not enough to get them to the playoffs.

The Raptors did make significant strides last season, though, after acquiring Rudy Gay from the Memphis Grizzlies, going 18-18 after the deal, an improvement over their 16-30 record before Gay arrived. However, the Raptors did lose their third-best scorer last season, Andrea Bargnani, in a sign-and-trade with the New York Knicks. Bargnani's replacement, the young Jonas Valanciunas, will replace most of Bargnani's production in the starting lineup, but the Raptors' bench will now take a hit as center Aaron Gray's playing time increases. For that reason, you can expect the Raptors to see a slight reduction from the .500 record they put up after receiving Rudy Gay, allowing for an estimate of 38 wins.

Even with a healthy Bynum, the Cavaliers are likely a 35-win team, not quite enough to get to the playoffs.

The Bucks, led by two of the most inefficient players in the NBA, Monta Ellis and Brandon Jennings, fought their way into the playoffs last year by capturing the last available seed. Despite losing both Jennings and Ellis in the offseason, the Bucks were able to make two savvy moves that will make them more successful in 2013-2014. They added the young and very-talented Brandon Knight and All-Star-caliber shooting guard O.J. Mayo. The addition of Knight and Mayo make the Bucks more of a legitimate basketball team than the mess they were last year.
Despite their problems, the Bucks were able to go 38-44 last season, and I would expect them to improve to at least 40 wins this year, making them a definite playoff team in the Eastern Conference

The Pistons took a big chance this offseason by hitching their wagon to All-Star Josh Smith to the tune of $54 million over a four-year deal. The Pistons also brought in the highly inefficient, yet extremely talented Brandon Jennings by shipping out Brandon Knight to Milwaukee. Replacing Tayshaun Prince with Josh Smith is absolutely a major upgrade, and it looks like the Pistons may very well end up as the best team of the six fighting to get in the playoffs.

As the analysis above shows, several of the teams the Celtics will be competing with for the final playoff spot are expected to improve over their performance from last season. The Bucks, Pistons and Raptors should all fall the 37-41 win camp, meaning that in order for the Celtics to make the playoffs, they are going to need to get to at least 37 wins.
Unless Boston receives a supreme performance from one of its questionable players like Kelly Olynyk, Jared Sullinger or Kris Humphries, it appears that the Celtics will be on the outside looking in when the playoffs start, likely finishing with roughly 35 wins.

So out of the Magic, Hornets, 76ers and the Wizards, which teams do you think have a worse record than the Jazz?

Then which teams in the West will have a better tank (I mean worse record) than the Jazz? Our competition for worse record will probably come down to Portland, Sacramento, New Orleans and Phoenix in the West.

So do your analysis or give me your best guess on where the Jazz will finish in the Wiggins sweep stakes or lottery.
 
I think the wizards will do better than they presume and probably the pelicans too.

The absolute worst the Jazz finish is third behind Philli and Orlando.

My honest guess

76ers,Magic,Suns,Celtics,Jazz,Bobcats

I think Rondo will be gone before the end of next season or have a mysterious toe injury. Boston is gunna tank.
 
Does it say we're getting Wiggins?

YES! (if that's what it says)
 
Wizards, Cavs, Raptors,Bobcats, Pistons, Bucks, and Boston....if healthy I'd pick Pistons, Cavs, Raptors with washington fighting for the 8th spot. Bucks r in the what r they doing faze. Some decent over priced pieces. Boston stil has some star power and a few players that have put ul decent numbers in the past. Bob/hornets really had a decent offseason, could maybe surprise?

I really hope Utah surprises us all with the playoffs but I'd like them to stink. Maybe allow us to sign some extns on the cheap. But I'd be suprised if phx, orl, bucks, Sac, being better then the Jazz.

Also very curious about Pelicans, Mavs, and lakers
 
Does it say we're getting Wiggins?

YES! (if that's what it says)

Nope :-( so what if the Jazz end up 6 or 7th and Marcus Smart would u think about drafting him? Is he a better long term Pg then Burke? I'm just excited for the season to start!
 
Nope :-( so what if the Jazz end up 6 or 7th and Marcus Smart would u think about drafting him? Is he a better long term Pg then Burke? I'm just excited for the season to start!

Well I was kidding, but 1st things 1st. Team with the worst record does not automatically get Wiggins. Every team in the lotto has a shot. I doubt there are a lot of reasonable ways to trade up to get the 1st pick, but I think the Jazz are looking to gain a few more assets and move up for a high pick if we don't luck out and win the lotto. If the Jazz have the 7th worst record I expect them to get a top 5 pick, one way or another.

My faith is based entirely on the magic DL has pulled off so far.

EDIT: said best, meant worst (it's all in the perspective)
 
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Nope :-( so what if the Jazz end up 6 or 7th and Marcus Smart would u think about drafting him? Is he a better long term Pg then Burke? I'm just excited for the season to start!

Different types of PG's.. but yeah, he's probably gonna be better. Yes, I would consider taking him at 7'ish. Not sure if I'd take him ahead of AnHarrison.
 
Nope :-( so what if the Jazz end up 6 or 7th and Marcus Smart would u think about drafting him? Is he a better long term Pg then Burke? I'm just excited for the season to start!

You take the bpa. Portland never should have passed on Jordan because they already had Drexler. You have to think of the draft as acquiring assets over building a team.
 
I so agree with bpa but I think it would diffinitely be interesting, to see what Utah would do, if Burke wins R.O.Y and then got placed in that situation. Trade Burke, keep him, or package him to move up? I'm just super happy about the future of the Jazz!
 
What I really like about this offseason...it seems.like the East got a lot deeper! Maybe a losing record won't get you into the playoff?
 
I think Smart and Harrison are very similar player types. Next season will show in which order they'll get drafted. I don't agree with the proposed order of jazzrule and I'll highlight it if I ever manage to finish my team previews and not fall asleep during writing only to get woken up 15 mins later by friends requesting my presence at the bar.
heyhey finally managed to post sth. smart, so I'm gonna mark this day in my calendar if I had one. 8/24 is the mother of all days.
Aim must be 3rd worst record as 3rd worst has the most #1 picks since the new lottery system was implemented.
I think Andrew Wiggins is a good kisser, as his lips seem very soft. #nohomo
 
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So out of the Magic, Hornets, 76ers and the Wizards, which teams do you think have a worse record than the Jazz?

Then which teams in the West will have a better tank (I mean worse record) than the Jazz? Our competition for worse record will probably come down to Portland, Sacramento, New Orleans and Phoenix in the West.

So do your analysis or give me your best guess on where the Jazz will finish in the Wiggins sweep stakes or lottery.
Agree with the EC teams although I'm not that sold on the Cavs and I don't think the Bobcats improved that much, even with the addition of Jefferson. Both those teams could finish with worse records than the Jazz. In the WC, the Blazers will be fighting for a playoff berth. They're a near lock for a better record. New Orleans added some nice pieces, including Jrue and I also think Sacramento will be much improved now that the ownership and location issues are settled. I have the Jazz somewhere in the 5-8 range, with a higher likelihood of finishing outside that range on the better end (9-11) than moving up to a top-4 position (before the lottery drawing).
 
I think the wizards will do better than they presume and probably the pelicans too.

The absolute worst the Jazz finish is third behind Philli and Orlando.

My honest guess

76ers,Magic,Suns,Celtics,Jazz,Bobcats

I think Rondo will be gone before the end of next season or have a mysterious toe injury. Boston is gunna tank.

This
Must spread the rep.
 
actually, at this moment, i don't like him

why?

and im not sold on any of the core. they all have a lot top prove.
I don't think any of them are busts, but no one has proven themselves to be
the players we hope they become. anything can happen. we are betting
on a lot of players developing, and improving from where they are at now.
 
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