Tell Us Who Got Banned Thread Closed?
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Archie Moses
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Fair enough. I apologize for "talking down" to you and Archie but it drives me insane when people sit and think everything was handled without consultation. Three votes are necessary for any action. When the thread gets locked, I'm not entirely sure why that means create another or start posting in unrelated threads. At that point, it's like my kid throwing a tantrum and Kicky made a decision to "ground you". I'm not trying to belittle the situation any more but that's how I feel. Maybe I'm wrong in that. It was locked and you could PM a moderator or me for clarification if it wasn't immediately evident in the thread. It may have even been unlocked once others could have been consulted.
I'm sorry again you felt singled out and that we spoiled your fun.
To the extent I made an error it was as follows:
To the best of my recollection it is true that after I sent out the warning honz stopped posting on the subject. Archie did not. To that extent there is a good argument that I should have temporarily ban-hammered Archie and let honz be. I can see that argument and I respect it. If that is the basis of honz' complaint, then that is valid.
My defense is as follows: Things were moving very quickly (I think I merged 3-5 items from various sources in about 5 minutes while editing my moderator thread log of what was happening and viewing various private messages that Archie and honz were sending me) and Archie was sending me PMs indicating that he and honz were engaging in a coordinated effort. To that extent at the time I viewed it as they were essentially operating in a unified fashion and I treated them identically.
If I could do it over again I would have still temporarily banned Archie, but I would have reached out a final time to honz (after already sending him 3-4 PMs during this incident) to make sure he had no further plans to try to get around the thread lock before temporarily banning him as well.
To the best of my recollection it is true that after I sent out the warning honz stopped posting on the subject. Archie did not. To that extent there is a good argument that I should have temporarily ban-hammered Archie and let honz be. I can see that argument and I respect it. If that is the basis of honz' complaint, then that is valid.
My defense is as follows: Things were moving very quickly (I think I merged 3-5 items from various sources in about 5 minutes while editing my moderator thread log of what was happening and viewing various private messages that Archie and honz were sending me) and Archie was sending me PMs indicating that he and honz were engaging in a coordinated effort. To that extent at the time I viewed it as they were essentially operating in a unified fashion and I treated them identically.
If I could do it over again I would have still temporarily banned Archie, but I would have reached out a final time to honz (after already sending him 3-4 PMs during this incident) to make sure he had no further plans to try to get around the thread lock before temporarily banning him as well.
Archie Moses
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I would rep you if I could. This is actually very reasonable.
Archie Moses
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Spread it to kicky for his next post and then swoop around and hit up Jason. Not hard.
Archie Moses
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Archie Moses
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It's getting late guys. honz, let's go to bed.
Like I said multiple times the first new thread was a clear attempt to clear up confusion and I think kicky thought we were just making fun of him or something and started to make it some personal thing which it never was. We were just being lame jokesters like we always are. And we didn't even care that much about the thread being locked just what happened after that...we totally understood the lock cause of inappropriate language and fake fighting or whatever. But that means we can't clear things up in a light hearted way?
It is what it is and I am not even asking for the infraction to be reviewed or reversed or anything just wanted someone on the mod side to at least acknowledge our side of the story. And it's also impossible to PM mods when you get banned instantly...so we couldn't get any other mods involved until we were unbanned today sometime.
I'm not really certain why you think I'm back-pedalling Archie. I'm saying I would have largely handled it the same way with the benefit of hindsight. I certainly would have treated you identically. I'm saying I might have treated honz somewhat differently and probably would have given him a little more time. Turns out there's a benefit to hindsight and my positions are not completely immovable.
Jason is correct in his analogy. I put you two in time-out. That's because you seemed extremely intent on getting into the jazzfanz equivalent of a wikipedia edit-war with me. I'm just not going to sit in front of my computer for an hour doing nothing but merging your posts. The easiest way to stop the cycle is just to turn off your ability to post until you calm down, so that's what I did. You were taken off posting privileges for barely half a day. That is barely a slap on the wrist. You're acting like I shot your dog.
Jason is correct in his analogy. I put you two in time-out. That's because you seemed extremely intent on getting into the jazzfanz equivalent of a wikipedia edit-war with me. I'm just not going to sit in front of my computer for an hour doing nothing but merging your posts. The easiest way to stop the cycle is just to turn off your ability to post until you calm down, so that's what I did. You were taken off posting privileges for barely half a day. That is barely a slap on the wrist. You're acting like I shot your dog.
Archie Moses
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Archie Moses
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Question: What was wrong with the thread stating that it was just a joke?