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Could Gobert eventually replaces BIEDRINS as a bench player ?

fishonjazz said:
Wrong thread.... this thread is about 2 backups by the names of gobert and biedrins and why one should get minutes without earning them but not the other one
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What part of inexperienced didn't you understand? Beantastic already wrote everything there was to say about Gobert looking lost with the ball. He makes bad rotations and isn't comfortable on the floor yet. It's not about some triumphant celebrity death match between Gobert and Beeno or TMZing the hell out of it, it's about Gobert earning NBA playing time. Gobert doesn't deserve 20 minutes, period. His mistakes would be catastrophic to team morale.

The Beeno stats are just a side show being used to distract from the real bball discussion. He sucks and nobody likes him, but why invent drama where none exists? Vagina food.
 
I'd start him with the other 4 guys that are going to start during the regular season a few times in the preseason just to get a better look at him.
 
Just remembered that I drafted Gobert with UGLI's pick in the BF league



Bawse.
 
franklin said:
What part of inexperienced didn't you understand? Beantastic already wrote everything there was to say about Gobert looking lost with the ball. He makes bad rotations and isn't comfortable on the floor yet. It's not about some triumphant celebrity death match between Gobert and Beeno or TMZing the hell out of it, it's about Gobert earning NBA playing time. Gobert doesn't deserve 20 minutes, period. His mistakes would be catastrophic to team morale.

The Beeno stats are just a side show being used to distract from the real bball discussion. He sucks and nobody likes him, but why invent drama where none exists? Vagina food.
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illyasova said:
the question must be could Gobert really replace Biedrins? Gobert needs lots of time to learn. No need to rush and make him disappointed.
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One day before, their were some guys, who even thought Gobert could "eventually" replace Favors. :)
 
franklin said:
What part of inexperienced didn't you understand? Beantastic already wrote everything there was to say about Gobert looking lost with the ball. He makes bad rotations and isn't comfortable on the floor yet. It's not about some triumphant celebrity death match between Gobert and Beeno or TMZing the hell out of it, it's about Gobert earning NBA playing time. Gobert doesn't deserve 20 minutes, period. His mistakes would be catastrophic to team morale.

The Beeno stats are just a side show being used to distract from the real bball discussion. He sucks and nobody likes him, but why invent drama where none exists? Vagina food.
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Hogwash. I think that Williams and Lucas will be valuable bench contributors. As will Rush or whoever he replaces in the starting line up. What good is "experience" if you stink. This is not an experience v. inexperience debate no matter how much you wish it to be so. This is about which one of two specific players would be better, Gobert or Biedrins.
 
Stoked said:
Hogwash. I think that Williams and Lucas will be valuable bench contributors. As will Rush or whoever he replaces in the starting line up. What good is "experience" if you stink. This is not an experience v. inexperience debate no matter how much you wish it to be so. This is about which one of two specific players would be better, Gobert or Biedrins.
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You made up your mind before the players ever hit the court. Your track record is more than clear on that. No sense discussing merit with someone refusing to acknowledge any. Gobert will be better than Biedrins, and nothing outside that vacuum matters to you. Your point has been made.
 
franklin said:
You made up your mind before the players ever hit the court. Your track record is more than clear on that. No sense discussing merit with someone refusing to acknowledge any. Gobert will be better than Biedrins, and nothing outside that vacuum matters to you. Your point has been made.
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My stance on Biedrins has been clear. You only need to look at his history of failing to contribute. In this discusion that point is all that matters. I truly see no way that Biedrins helps the Jazz better than Gobert.

If you want to broaden the discussion to other vets on the team than by all means. Jefferson, Rush, Williams, Lucas... I can see merit and value in different scenarios with all of them. But all this is besides the point as you made some irrelevant point and nothing outside that vacuum matters to you. Your own track record is clear on that.
 
franklin said:
You made up your mind before the players ever hit the court. Your track record is more than clear on that. No sense discussing merit with someone refusing to acknowledge any. Gobert will be better than Biedrins, and nothing outside that vacuum matters to you. Your point has been made.
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It will be funny when it becomes obvious to everyone that gobert is better than biedrins and then you can just say its because corbin developed him just perfectly and he was not better than biedrins until the exact moment that corbin gives gobert more minutes
 
Stoked said:
My stance on Biedrins has been clear.
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Why are you repeating what I said. You see Biedrins as having no value and will disregard rotation and every other concept in basketball for a stats sheet and hope in one hand. If it can't be measured, it does not matter. Again, your point is very clear.
 
Just curious.....
@franklin... in your opinion has corbin ever made a mistake in regards to rotations/minutes?
 
fishonjazz said:
It will be funny when it becomes obvious to everyone that gobert is better than biedrins and then you can just say its because corbin developed him just perfectly and he was not better than biedrins until the exact moment that corbin gives gobert more minutes
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I could typecast you equally by saying it will be funny when it becomes obvious to everyone that gobert is better than biedrins and then you will blast corbin for not playing him and using his development as proof that corbin is a idoit. But I think that would be rude and dishonest.
 
franklin said:
I could typecast you equally by saying it will be funny when it becomes obvious to everyone that gobert is better than biedrins and then you will blast corbin for not playing him and using his development as proof that corbin is a idoit. But I think that would be rude and dishonest.
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True.

But I do give corbin credit for things at times and take the side of corbin and give him the benefit of the doubt sometimes (like how I understood why he played millsap and jeffy over the young bigs)

It seems that you never criticize anything he does and contantly compare him to popovich and phil jackson etc.

Just seems like corbin is perfect to you is all
 
franklin said:
I could typecast you equally by saying it will be funny when it becomes obvious to everyone that gobert is better than biedrins and then you will blast corbin for not playing him and using his development as proof that corbin is a idoit. But I think that would be rude and dishonest.
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You've already typecast half the board that way.
 
fishonjazz said:
It will be funny when it becomes obvious to everyone that gobert is better than biedrins and then you can just say its because corbin developed him just perfectly and he was not better than biedrins until the exact moment that corbin gives gobert more minutes
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fishonjazz said:
Just curious.....
@franklin... in your opinion has corbin ever made a mistake in regards to rotations/minutes?
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fishonjazz said:
True.

But I do give corbin credit for things at times and take the side of corbin and give him the benefit of the doubt sometimes (like how I understood why he played millsap and jeffy over the young bigs)

It seems that you never criticize anything he does and contantly compare him to popovich and phil jackson etc.

Just seems like corbin is perfect to you is all
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Fish, re-read the thread. I never said anything about Corbin in here. You made a point once again to make it about my opinion on Corbin when I was discussing thread topic merits of Gobert vs. Biedrins.

Ironic since I've been the most vocal anti-Beeno critic -- I made the original Biedrins flame thread and have continued that in here.
 
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