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Not sure who you're talking to PJKino... as I said that is the general feeling regarding Self around the scouting circles.. it wasn't simply my opinion.

There have been articles written on it as well. I'm not arguing a point though.. just sharing what scouts think.

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Not sure who you're talking to PJKino... as I said that is the general feeling regarding Self around the scouting circles.. it wasn't simply my opinion.

There have been articles written on it as well. I'm not arguing a point though.. just sharing what scouts think.

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Yeah that was sort of my take which is why I raised the point in the first place. I'm just a bit concerned as I haven't heard of any All Stars that have come out of his system - yet.

I would have at least may be picked a coach who's had a good track record of developing stars such as Coach Crean with DWade.
 
Yeah that was sort of my take which is why I raised the point in the first place. I'm just a bit concerned as I haven't heard of any All Stars that have come out of his system - yet.

I would have at least may be picked a coach who's had a good track record of developing stars such as Coach Crean with DWade.

I assume you're trolling.

Coach K has been the best I'd say.
Calipari gets a lot of credit, but it's also obvious he gets the best talent, by far.. so not really fair.

Roy Williams has been one of the very worst... but the worst BY FAR has been Rick Barnes (and save me the Durant argument).
 
I assume you're trolling.

Coach K has been the best I'd say.
Calipari gets a lot of credit, but it's also obvious he gets the best talent, by far.. so not really fair.

Roy Williams has been one of the very worst... but the worst BY FAR has been Rick Barnes (and save me the Durant argument).

Coach K hasn't developed an All Star wing though has he, last time I checked?

Coach Crean has DWade.
 
That site may be the worst of them all.
I like DX the best but they're far from the gospel ..

I like DX for being the only site that scouts international talents properly. Right now their mock is a mess, but I think they are also aware of that and are just waiting to see the first couple weeks of NCAA ball until they update. That update obv includes BIFFs like Young + Aaron in 2015 and stuff like that.
 
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Why should I give any college coach big props for developing a one-and-done player? Most of these kids are bound for the NBA before the ncaa touches them.

I think the debate was which coach better prepares the OAD player for the NBA in their lone cbb season.
My opinion is Calipari.. but for reasons aside from the game. He spends a lot of time preparing the kids for the rigors of the NBA, negotiating with agents, and all the pitfalls. They all do to some degree, but the NBA knows that Cal's players better understand before the draft as opposed to those under other coaches.

Another part of the debate, imo, is how many top players actually played their way to OAD vs. needing to come back to school. That's where Roy Williams wins the award for the most top-notch players with plummeting draft stock during their freshman year.

Why should you care about any of that? No idea. But it's an interesting topic for some.

If we take Smart over Randle or Exum.......

This 100%.
 
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Go ahead but you are cherry picking what I said. I didn't say he was the next Quincy Lewis. I just said that he had an upright stance when defending similar to Quincy Lewis. In the one video, his first college game, he seemed to be too upright and stiff while playing defense. I never said he wouldn't be a good defender. He just didn't look as lateral quick as I thought.
 
Go ahead but you are cherry picking what I said. I didn't say he was the next Quincy Lewis. I just said that he had an upright stance when defending similar to Quincy Lewis. In the one video, his first college game, he seemed to be too upright and stiff while playing defense. I never said he wouldn't be a good defender. He just didn't look as lateral quick as I thought.

I get you Cow, but I'll still look sexy down there.
 
Intended mostly for PKM, but other SMART people can weigh in too.

What players coming out this year would you bet will turn out better than every current Jazz player? Obviously it's hard to say for a lot of reasons, but just for fun and cuz I'm stuck in my car waiting to pick someone up from the airport, what is your best guess? Not who has the potential to be, but who if you had to put money on it will turn out better than every player the Jazz have.

From the little I've read, and highlights I've watched, I'd say...

Wiggins
Parker
Randle
Probably Exum

Haven't watched any of either Harrison.




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Intended mostly for PKM, but other SMART people can weigh in too.

What players coming out this year would you bet will turn out better than every current Jazz player? Obviously it's hard to say for a lot of reasons, but just for fun and cuz I'm stuck in my car waiting to pick someone up from the airport, what is your best guess? Not who has the potential to be, but who if you had to put money on it will turn out better than every player the Jazz have.

From the little I've read, and highlights I've watched, I'd say...

Wiggins
Parker
Randle
Probably Exum

Haven't watched any of either Harrison.




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Wiggins and Parker, fo sho.

Prooooobably Randle (not totally convinced he'll be better than Kanter).

I need to see more of Exum.
 
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