Would you trade Elder Hayward for....

[8]

Cept Pippen was the best wing defender of all time.

Lebron is probably better, but you have a good point

 

[Sexual Favors]

Cept Pippen was the best wing defender of all time.

I agree.

I said he was our Pippen, and Pippen-esque. My point is that players like him don't grow on trees.

 

[Shad]

I hate to say it but every crappy team has to have atleast 1 player that looks good (and score) while doing it. Hayward is a great player, don't get me wrong, but he will never be on the same level as the player drafted right after him.

 

[8]

I hate to say it but every crappy team has to have atleast 1 player that looks good (and score) while doing it. Hayward is a great player, don't get me wrong, but he will never be on the same level as the player drafted right after him.

So every player who's not as good as Paul George should be traded?

 

[Shad]

When they think they deserve more than they're worth, then yes.

 

[akirac73]

He'd likely improve the team and they'd finish outside the bottom 7 anyway.

You mean like how he's helping his current bottom 7 team? LOL.

 

[Darkwing Duck]

You mean like how he's helping his current bottom 7 team? LOL.

Any team Hayward would be potentially traded to is better than the current team he's on.

 

[b_line]

I would not trade Hayward for anyone but a proven all star right now. I believe he will be an all star

 

[oldtimer]

I would not trade Hayward for anyone but a proven all star right now. I believe he will be an all star

You know its funny how many fans over value Hayward. I asked four NBA fans (Lakers, Blazers, OKC, and Sacramento) about Hayward and his value. Two didn't even know who he was. The other two both said 5-6 million per year. When I toldthem he rejected a 4 year 40 million dollar deal they all laughed and said only Utah would offer that much for Hayward. Now while NBA GM's are much smarter than the typical NBA fan, I don't think Hayward's play so far calls for a 13 million per year commitment.

 

[Stoked]

You know its funny how many fans over value Hayward. I asked four NBA fans (Lakers, Blazers, OKC, and Sacramento) about Hayward and his value. Two didn't even know who he was. The other two both said 5-6 million per year. When I toldthem he rejected a 4 year 40 million dollar deal they all laughed and said only Utah would offer that much for Hayward. Now while NBA GM's are much smarter than the typical NBA fan, I don't think Hayward's play so far calls for a 13 million per year commitment.

20 ppg, 6 rpg, 5 apg, 1 spg. That puts him 18th on the scoring list, 30th on assists, ties for 58th on rebounds.

They don't know about Hayward because he is young and in Utah. He is going to get paid and rightfully so. He is playing his butt off in a way that improves teams. This is not Al Jefferson syndrome where he just puts up #s on bad teams.

 

[Getting Traded]

Trade your best player for a pick whose future is uncertain? ... As they say, a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

 

[Hekate]

No, please don't.

 

[franklin]

You know its funny how many fans over value Hayward. I asked four NBA fans (Lakers, Blazers, OKC, and Sacramento) about Hayward and his value. Two didn't even know who he was. The other two both said 5-6 million per year. When I toldthem he rejected a 4 year 40 million dollar deal they all laughed and said only Utah would offer that much for Hayward. Now while NBA GM's are much smarter than the typical NBA fan, I don't think Hayward's play so far calls for a 13 million per year commitment.

Do you live in a retirement center?

 

[b_line]

You know its funny how many fans over value Hayward. I asked four NBA fans (Lakers, Blazers, OKC, and Sacramento) about Hayward and his value. Two didn't even know who he was. The other two both said 5-6 million per year. When I toldthem he rejected a 4 year 40 million dollar deal they all laughed and said only Utah would offer that much for Hayward. Now while NBA GM's are much smarter than the typical NBA fan, I don't think Hayward's play so far calls for a 13 million per year commitment.

I am just going to go ahead and say that you might want to get checked for dimentia. And What Frank said, something about retirement center.

 

[Revolution 9]

Whoever we pick in the draft doesn't have to get paid for 4 years. Hayward is looking like a sure thing. I love Kanter, but he has some growing to do before he's a max guy. I say you pay Hayward, and Kanter when it is time, and you let the team build chemistry, trading the excess when necessary. Sucha move now is VERY premature.

And I think you are dead wrong in believing Hay isn't necessary. As of now, he is the only player we have who I feel we absolutely must keep.

We need to think big picture. You are all wrapped up in a Hayward blanket that might be affecting your thought process.
With Hay being the man right now we won't ever be an elite team. He is a complementary player, maybe a star, but not the number 1. Therefore he can't be our #1 focus. His contract has to work in the over sense of things. We have to get that man in this draft coming up. Our number one, and we have to be able to extend him at a max rate. I agree that maybe it turns out Hayward is more valuable than Kanter for the long term. We might be good with Gobert, and Favors going forward, who knows? However if we can't fit in 2 max players plus Favors contract, and still yield a great team then we have to consider all our options.

 

[jope]

You know its funny how many fans over value Hayward. I asked four NBA fans (Lakers, Blazers, OKC, and Sacramento) about Hayward and his value. Two didn't even know who he was. The other two both said 5-6 million per year. When I toldthem he rejected a 4 year 40 million dollar deal they all laughed and said only Utah would offer that much for Hayward. Now while NBA GM's are much smarter than the typical NBA fan, I don't think Hayward's play so far calls for a 13 million per year commitment.

Lol.

 

[jope]

We need to think big picture. You are all wrapped up in a Hayward blanket that might be affecting your thought process.
With Hay being the man right now we won't ever be an elite team. He is a complementary player, maybe a star, but not the number 1. Therefore he can't be our #1 focus. His contract has to work in the over sense of things. We have to get that man in this draft coming up. Our number one, and we have to be able to extend him at a max rate. I agree that maybe it turns out Hayward is more valuable than Kanter for the long term. We might be good with Gobert, and Favors going forward, who knows? However if we can't fit in 2 max players plus Favors contract, and still yield a great team then we have to consider all our options.

He shouldnt be payed as our #1 option. That will hopefully be the guy we draft. but if he would be a legit #2 option, then you have to pay him. Almost all #2 guys on contenders are payed what Hayward is looking for - and Hes proving right now that he can definitely be the #2 guy right now (20,5,6 on good numbers is a solid #2 guy on a contender) - he may drop off as the season wears on, but that has yet to be seen. You cant always save paying for people that may be worth it later, when you have a guy that is arguably worth it now, or you may never be good while you are constantly waiting for someone to step up.


Not to mention paying him a 4 year deal wouldnt affect the eventual extension of our #1 guy who we'll draft and have a 4 year rookie contract (hayward deal ends as rookie is set to re-up - if i understand correctly). so, i'm one for paying hayward if he keeps up this performance.

 

[Sexual Favors]

He shouldnt be payed as our #1 option. That will hopefully be the guy we draft. but if he would be a legit #2 option, then you have to pay him. Almost all #2 guys on contenders are payed what Hayward is looking for - and Hes proving right now that he can definitely be the #2 guy right now (20,5,6 on good numbers is a solid #2 guy on a contender) - he may drop off as the season wears on, but that has yet to be seen. You cant always save paying for people that may be worth it later, when you have a guy that is arguably worth it now, or you may never be good while you are constantly waiting for someone to step up.


Not to mention paying him a 4 year deal wouldnt affect the eventual extension of our #1 guy who we'll draft and have a 4 year rookie contract (hayward deal ends as rookie is set to re-up - if i understand correctly). so, i'm one for paying hayward if he keeps up this performance.

This. Thank you for typing this so I didn't have to. Reppon you now!

 

[b_line]

If we draft a superstar, and he gets a couple of all star appearances and rookie of the year or MVP on his rookie contract, then we are supposed to give him the Derrick Rose contract renegotiation deal. That means a 3rd year player could be getting 25% of the salary cap if we draft a superstar. That is super rare though, and would mean we would probably have to let one of Favors, Hayward, Kanter, and probably Burks go.

 

[Darkwing Duck]

Oh.no.we.lose.Nick.Young.I.mean.Alec.Burks.for.an.all.star.

I.would.be.so.upset.