Right, there are 14 teams in the lotto and one of the 13 usually out draws the worst team. There is no other position that has a better chance at the #1 pick than the team with the worst record. It's always better to have the best shot.
R.I.P. 2014 Tank
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Right, there are 14 teams in the lotto and one of the 13 usually out draws the worst team. There is no other position that has a better chance at the #1 pick than the team with the worst record. It's always better to have the best shot.
Coach Ellis
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Especially since that best shot guarantees that the worst they pick is #4 which could be any of the top prospects this year.
♪alt13
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This a million times
Hitman
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Not quite true.
The East is so bad they only have 2 teams over .500 (and one at .500), and the Bucks and Knicks are tied for last at 3-13 which leaves them only 3.5 games out of the last playoff spot. The West has 10 teams over .500, two at .500, and although we are in last place, our two-game win streak has brought us within 6.5 games of the playoffs!
The reason for the disparity is the West is dominating inter-conference games. The Knicks are 0-7 vs the West. Brooklyn is 3-6. Celtics 1-6. Bucks 0-3. And so on. The only East teams with a winning record vs the West are the two with winning records. If this trend continues it will be hard for us to finish below any Eastern team, because they can *only* beat each other. Although having said that, we've already aided our own cause by going 1-4 against Eastern teams. If we keep that up, the tank can still be saved!
♪alt13
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Leastern conference teams are losing to Bestern conference teams because they are not as good. Franklins point is that they get to play each other 3-4 times while we will only play each one twice. That is definitely a tank advatage for us and is probably worth 4-5 games.
Hitman
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Which is almost meaningless, since in each of these games one team will lose as well. Splitting the wins also splits the losses.
b_line
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Seems like you are missing the point a little bit. Since there are fewer bad teams in the west, that equals fewer wins overall for the bad teams in the west. Since there are more bad teams in the east, that equals more wins overall for teams in the east.
♪alt13
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If team (A) plays 60 games against good teams and 22 games against bad teams and team (B) plays 50 games against good teams and 32 games against bad teams then team (A) has a harder time winning the same number of games.
if we went 50/50 with the teams that are currently below .500 in the west we would get 4 wins against those teams the rest of our in conference play may be too difficult for us to go 50/50 with.
If the 76ers goes 50/50 with the teams that are currently below .500 in the east they will pick up 18 wins against those teams.
^Just showing a concept. Not actually saying we can't go 50/50 with some more WC teams.
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Historically the median for worst record in the league has been about 17 wins since 2000 (not counting the lockout season a couple years ago). That means even if the Jazz are the worst they still have to win 13 more games. So they might as well win most of them at home and give the fans something to cheer for. They can always suck it up on the road like they've done historically.
Scorpjazz
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Agreed, at least they got rid of Mancrap and Bi Gal so we can see what we really have, and some of it isn't too bad. Some of it isn't what we thought though
The Fresh Prince
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That's why we took the damn court! If you wanna crown em, then crown their ***!
But they are, WHO WE THOUGHT THEY WERE!!!
homeytennis
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Corbin needs to make sure that Luke the 3rd, Beans, Harris, Rush, and Ian all play at least 40 minutes every game.
Grandpa Jazz
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What world are you living in Siro. The Jazz bench ranks from about 14-19th (out of 30) in the league in scoring, rebounds, assists, blocked shots etc. Decidedly middle of the road, but not worst in the league as you imply.
WTF is Corbin doing?
This year should be all about developing our young players, Favors, Burke, Burks, Kanter, Hayward, Gobert. And hopefully grab a GREAT player in the draft.
So why is he playing Marvin & Jefferson heavy minutes to win games?!?! This is Jefferson & Millsap stinking up our draft position all over again!!!
This year should be all about developing our young players, Favors, Burke, Burks, Kanter, Hayward, Gobert. And hopefully grab a GREAT player in the draft.
So why is he playing Marvin & Jefferson heavy minutes to win games?!?! This is Jefferson & Millsap stinking up our draft position all over again!!!
Corbin is showing the young players how to win games. When they play winning basketball, they will play over Jefferson, at the very least.
LOL.. isn't the last 3-4 seasons enough of this "showing" though? How much more can they be "shown" something without having to actually "accomplish" the thing themselves?
Kanter in particular has been so starved of minutes the last 3 years - and you're gonna starve him some more??!!
Well, I see Favors, Hayward, and Burks out there for major minutes, and even Burke is playing a lot. Evans is a limited player getting decent minutes. So, who this "they" could you be talking about? Did you mean "he"?
Is he ready for more? Perhaps Kanter is sated, and you want to gorge him. If all of the other young players are playing, and Kanter is not, why do you assume this is an issue with Corbin, and not Kanter?
"They" only got serious minutes this year when Lindsey traded away Big Al, Millsap and Foye to force Corbin's hands.
Whether or not he's ready for me, it's time to see what he's got. This is the perfect opportunity to do that, being a "tank year" and all. Once next year rolls around and we're back on the "win now" mode once again, that opportunity is gone.