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111 waivers handed out

The Thriller

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For companies and unions not wanting to participate in Obamacare. Many of these companies are fast food restaurants like McDonalds.

Why are waivers being handed out? Doesn't this hurt Obamacare? Is this an admission that Obamacare stinks?
 

https://www.associatedcontent.com/article/5872292/companies_granted_waivers_to_opt_out.html

https://www.usatoday.com/money/indu...-07-healthlaw07_ST_N.htm?loc=interstitialskip

McDonald's offers their part time and hourly workers a "mini-med" plan. It only covers general practitioner visits and scripts. By law they are not required to offer any health insurance to part time employees. Under Obamacare, McDonald's is required to offer full health care insurance if they are going to offer insurance. It is cheaper for McDonald's to drop the health insurance for part time employees.

The administration determined, and rightfully so, that these part time employees will be better off with a mini-med plan than no plan at all so they exempted McDonald's. Basically any large corporation that employs numerous part time employees such as fast food restaurants, convenience stores such as 7-11, etc. will benefit from an exemption.
 
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oh boy, a thread posted by someone who unironically uses the term 'obamacare'

i'm sure this will be an intelligent and nuanced discussion among neutral parties who are seeking to further their understanding of health care administration rather than agenda loyalists pushing a preconceived narrative on those they abstractly disagree with
 
oh boy, a thread posted by someone who unironically uses the term 'obamacare'

i'm sure this will be an intelligent and nuanced discussion among neutral parties who are seeking to further their understanding of health care administration rather than agenda loyalists pushing a preconceived narrative on those they abstractly disagree with

So far yours is the only preconceived narrative directed at the original poster that you seem to abstractly disagree with based on a loyalist agenda... just saying.
 
So far yours is the only preconceived narrative directed at the original poster that you seem to abstractly disagree with based on a loyalist agenda... just saying.

haha, yes, i am loyal to the agenda of neutral, reasoned discourse, free of bias or weasel words, you got me
 
https://www.associatedcontent.com/article/5872292/companies_granted_waivers_to_opt_out.html

https://www.usatoday.com/money/indu...-07-healthlaw07_ST_N.htm?loc=interstitialskip

McDonald's offers their part time and hourly workers a "mini-med" plan. It only covers general practitioner visits and scripts. By law they are not required to offer any health insurance to part time employees. Under Obamacare, McDonald's is required to offer full health care insurance if they are going to offer insurance. It is cheaper for McDonald's to drop the health insurance for part time employees.

The administration determined, and rightfully so, that these part time employees will be better off with a mini-med plan than no plan at all so they exempted McDonald's. Basically any large corporation that employs numerous part time employees such as fast food restaurants, convenience stores such as 7-11, etc. will benefit from an exemption.

If McDonalds stopped offering health insurance, then couldn't those part time employees get onto Obamacare? By allowing the waiver, does that mean that Obamacare is worse than this bare basic insurance plan that they were offering previously?

I just don't get why or how Foxnews is using this as a jab @ Obamacare.
 
I just don't get why or how Foxnews is using this as a jab @ Obamacare.

If I had to guess I would say that it is because Obamacare would have forced previously, privately insured people into using public health care thereby costing the taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars. Of course the waiver prevented this but I suspect Fox views it an oversight on governments behalf as to how Obamacare would negatively affect businesses and/or the deficit. Remember, this bill was touted as a money saver, not an additional cost.
 
haha, yes, i am loyal to the agenda of neutral, reasoned discourse, free of bias or weasel words, you got me

Let me remind you how you started your post

Get Down said:
oh boy, a thread posted by someone who unironically uses the term 'obamacare'

Neutral? Free of bias? Sounds to me like you've already made up your mind about Mr. Thriller... just saying.
 
Let me remind you how you started your post



Neutral? Free of bias? Sounds to me like you've already made up your mind about Mr. Thriller... just saying.

haha i'm not the one attempting to broker facts here. i'm biased as hell but i'm not in the game. i'm offering commentary on a question i think is framed curiously and to hold my commentary to the same standards is to equate fox news and the daily show though their purposes are entirely different.
 
https://www.associatedcontent.com/article/5872292/companies_granted_waivers_to_opt_out.html

https://www.usatoday.com/money/indu...-07-healthlaw07_ST_N.htm?loc=interstitialskip

McDonald's offers their part time and hourly workers a "mini-med" plan. It only covers general practitioner visits and scripts. By law they are not required to offer any health insurance to part time employees. Under Obamacare, McDonald's is required to offer full health care insurance if they are going to offer insurance. It is cheaper for McDonald's to drop the health insurance for part time employees.

The administration determined, and rightfully so, that these part time employees will be better off with a mini-med plan than no plan at all so they exempted McDonald's. Basically any large corporation that employs numerous part time employees such as fast food restaurants, convenience stores such as 7-11, etc. will benefit from an exemption.

The headlines are predictable:

"Obamacare Causes a Rise in Part-time Employment"
 
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