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Stoked said:
Oh I am not saying it is tomorrow but it seems obvious that it is coming. Having a GPS in every car is the obvious next step.

Once all the bugs are worked out just think how far the # of accidents will go down. Automated driving with each vehicle knowing where all the other vehicles are at.
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Totally agree. At the same time, we'd be able to drop insurance rates for two reasons; Any manufacturers driverless setup would be much safer than human drivers, and depending on which manufacturer you go with your rate would be based on how good their software is instead of how "good" the driver is.

I'd love to see this happen, and probably will see it happen regularly in my lifetime. But I doubt I'll live to see it required.
 
ElRoach0 said:
Totally agree. At the same time, we'd be able to drop insurance rates for two reasons; Any manufacturers driverless setup would be much safer than human drivers, and depending on which manufacturer you go with your rate would be based on how good their software is instead of how "good" the driver is.

I'd love to see this happen, and probably will see it happen regularly in my lifetime. But I doubt I'll live to see it required.
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Perhaps if we live to a nice old age.

I am still waiting to see the cell take over pretty much everything in our life. It is a phone, text service, GPS navigator, calculator, flashlight, camera, video recorder, video phone, computer,

Credit card is starting to come out. How long before the keyless entry on cars is added to your phone and home?
 
b_line said:
It's called a drive flat. It's only good for like 100 miles or something. It's got rigid sidewalls so it doesn't need to be round. But it can't be driven forever like that. It is just a remedy so you don't have to put a spare on.
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That one I can see.
 
Stoked said:
It is not "run flats" that I am talking about. Michellin and Goodyear, as well as others, are workign on the replacement for normal tires. They are already in use in the military and for ATVs. They are just adapting them for civilian use. They actually are pretty cool.
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I can see using springs as an idea with potential.
 
One Brow said:
I can see using springs as an idea with potential.
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It already works lol. They are just modifying it for civilian use. I think it is already in production for cars to be honest with you. I'm sure the price is still high but it will come down over time. It always does.
 
Stoked said:
How long before the keyless entry on cars is added to your phone and home?
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*ahem*
iStore
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/onstar-remotelink/id393584149?mt=8

Google
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gm.onstar.mobile.mylink

An active OnStar Directions & Connections or Safe & Sound service plan is required to access most features. If you purchased 2014 OnStar equipped vehicle and use RemoteLink just once during your OnStar trial or consecutive subscription, you’ll retain access to the Key Fob Services—Remote Start, Remote Door Lock and Remote Horn and Lights features—for five years from the date of delivery. Key Fob Services do not include any emergency or other OnStar services. Subsequent owners will be able to activate the remaining term by calling OnStar at 1.888.4.ONSTAR.
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Stoked said:
It already works lol. They are just modifying it for civilian use. I think it is already in production for cars to be honest with you. I'm sure the price is still high but it will come down over time. It always does.
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All of the entries in the wikipedia page are in prototype stage, or are in use in specialized environments like constructions sites, or low-weight/low-speed applications like bicycles, scooters, and wheelchairs. In particular, the spring design is still in the prototype stage.

Pneumatic tires can hit potholes repeated without losing their shape, but any design that relies on stiff structures will face the challenge that repeated impacts will gradually weaken the material over time.
 
One Brow said:
All of the entries in the wikipedia page are in prototype stage, or are in use in specialized environments like constructions sites, or low-weight/low-speed applications like bicycles, scooters, and wheelchairs. In particular, the spring design is still in the prototype stage.

Pneumatic tires can hit potholes repeated without losing their shape, but any design that relies on stiff structures will face the challenge that repeated impacts will gradually weaken the material over time.
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Tires wear out anyway. The key is to just make them last as long as(or close to it) a pneumatic tire. I would take say a 20% shortened life on a tire if I never had to worry about a flat again.
 
heyhey said:
Tires wear out anyway. The key is to just make them last as long as(or close to it) a pneumatic tire. I would take say a 20% shortened life on a tire if I never had to worry about a flat again.
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I think this will be largely environment-dependent. You'll see a lot more potholes and similar hazards in urban areas (and rural areas, I should think) than suburban areas.

Also, you'll be exchanging the flat for the misshapen. At least flats are obvious. A tire could gradually lose it's shape, not in an obvious way, and you might keep driving it for a while, doing additional damage to your care. That's why pneumatic tires replaced solid tires/wheels in the first place.

I think some of these tire ideas have promise, but I don't expect they will eliminate problems, just exchange one set for another.

Springs, on the other hand, seem like you might get the best of both worlds.
 
One Brow said:
I think this will be largely environment-dependent. You'll see a lot more potholes and similar hazards in urban areas (and rural areas, I should think) than suburban areas.

Also, you'll be exchanging the flat for the misshapen. At least flats are obvious. A tire could gradually lose it's shape, not in an obvious way, and you might keep driving it for a while, doing additional damage to your care. That's why pneumatic tires replaced solid tires/wheels in the first place.

I think some of these tire ideas have promise, but I don't expect they will eliminate problems, just exchange one set for another.

Springs, on the other hand, seem like you might get the best of both worlds.
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A misshaped tire would be obvious. Your car would shake. I bought a used car once that had uneven wear on one of the tires.(worn down more on the inside than out) After I fixed the tie rod that caused the bad wear and took it for a test drive it still shaked like an sob. Put on a new tire and it went away.
 
Stoked said:
That is not exactly what I mean. I am taking about the fobs that work now by just being around your car. How long before that is integrated into your phone. Where is constantly gives off a signal up to say 10 feet. As you approach your car it unlocks. Same with your home. No phone call.
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That'd be only slightly more complicated. Based on the need for literally ANY smartphone to work with this I'd imagine it'd have to be through a group like onstar that's "always connected" to your car. And likely run it through bluetooth, unless we wanna chance it running a wireless AP through the car. But that'd lead to timing concerns(how fast the two pieces establish a secure connection and finish the "handshake" process). And require the car and phone both update with a new random encryption key every 24-48 hours for security reasons. You COULD run it through the same process as a vpn key, or game authenticator. But in that case your code is out there in the world for people see/access.

That whole thing is very much already possible. Just needs someone to code for it, and a large group(like onstar) to be willing to take the risk.
 
ElRoach0 said:
That'd be only slightly more complicated. Based on the need for literally ANY smartphone to work with this I'd imagine it'd have to be through a group like onstar that's "always connected" to your car. And likely run it through bluetooth, unless we wanna chance it running a wireless AP through the car. But that'd lead to timing concerns(how fast the two pieces establish a secure connection and finish the "handshake" process). And require the car and phone both update with a new random encryption key every 24-48 hours for security reasons. You COULD run it through the same process as a vpn key, or game authenticator. But in that case your code is out there in the world for people see/access.

That whole thing is very much already possible. Just needs someone to code for it, and a large group(like onstar) to be willing to take the risk.
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I wouldn't buy it. Keys are cheap, reliable, and easy to use. An app that could do diagnostics would be awesome. Your check engine light comes on and you just plug the phone into the port. Out puts the error code and the likely cause.
 
heyhey said:
I wouldn't buy it. Keys are cheap, reliable, and easy to use. An app that could do diagnostics would be awesome. Your check engine light comes on and you just plug the phone into the port. Out puts the error code and the likely cause.
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KIA introduced something like this for 2014. its not an app on a phone, its actually built into the head unit. when the check engine light comes on it displays the code, the possible problems, lets you know if you can keep driving or should call a tow. and actually sets up an appointment at the nearest dealership to get it diagnosed, or calls a tow truck if you shouldnt drive.
 
Chris-L said:
KIA introduced something like this for 2014. its not an app on a phone, its actually built into the head unit. when the check engine light comes on it displays the code, the possible problems, lets you know if you can keep driving or should call a tow. and actually sets up an appointment at the nearest dealership to get it diagnosed, or calls a tow truck if you shouldnt drive.
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That's awesome. It has always pissed me off that they don't have a display in the car for the code.
 
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