Thorpe's disappointing rookies list

[sirkickyass]

The rookies:

Greg Monroe
Evan Turner
Gordon Hayward
Timofey Mozgov
Demarcus Cousins

Some samples of the Hayward discussion:

Heading into the draft, the big question about Hayward was, "Is he the good shooter we saw during his freshman year, or the below average one from his sophomore season?" Thus far in his NBA career, the answer has been the latter. And that's a problem.

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Hayward projects to be a shooting guard but simply can't play that spot if his shooting doesn't improve. He is 13-of-33 from the field and 1-of-7 from 3, and has taken just two free throws this season. For a guy who carried his mid-major team to the brink of a national title, those numbers are numbing. When I watch him shoot, I don't see a guy locked in on every shot; I see a guy who's just happy to be on an NBA team. With that frame of mind, he won't be for long.



A minor injury to Raja Bell should give Hayward more minutes in the next few games, but he currently has the sixth-worst PER in the entire NBA (3.54).

 

[Hopper]

Well, that's all kinda *** (aint gunna say it, but it rhymes with "day," feel me?), aint it, Kicky?

 

[C l u t c H 385]

Well, that's all kinda *** (aint gunna say it, but it rhymes with "day," feel me?), aint it, Kicky?

Ya lost me.

 

[TroutBum]

May? I love spring.

 

[NUMBERICA]

I don't want to be right about the kid.

 

[mfree]

A bit early don'tcha think?

 

[mellow]

Hayward could silence alot of critics if he could just get some hustle plays. A couple of steals, maybe some rebounds (I'm hoping he gets atleast ONE against the Nets) a put back or fast break layup.

I'm still pulling for him, but he's gotta find a way (other than a Rodger Bell injury) to stay on the floor.

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

My question is who the hell are the five guys with worse PER's?

 

[Hopper]

Best I can recalls, Jazz aint never got nuthin good outta no player called "Gordon." Why would that change now? A name like that kinda sezzit all, dont it?

 

[sirkickyass]

My question is who the hell are the five guys with worse PER's?

Daequan Cook (3.34)
Hasheem Thabeet (2.86)
JJ Redick (2.73)
Acie Law (.82)
DJ Mbenga (.51)

Earl Watson is also in the bottom 20 (5.70), and Raja Bell is in the bottom 25 (6.79).

Not good signs.

 

[carolinajazz]

....look at it this way....they can't get any worse...so they have to get better, right?

 

[VINYLONE]

Well, that's all kinda *** (aint gunna say it, but it rhymes with "day," feel me?), aint it, Kicky?

Be a man and say what you have to say.

 

[Hopper]

Be a man and say what you have to say.

Vinny, if I hauled off and said what I have to say bout you, they would say I was a complete homophobe and throw my *** clean offa this here board.

Aint true, of course. I aint no complete homophobe. 99.9%, mebbe, but, still....

 

[VINYLONE]

Vinny, if I hauled off and said what I have to say bout you, they would say I was a complete homophobe and throw my *** clean offa this here board.

Aint true, of course. I aint no complete homophobe. 99.9%, mebbe, but, still....

Bitches very rarely say what they want to say. It's always some excuse as to why they can't. What, you don't know how to use the PM? Im sure your mother is proud she raised a bigot. Bigot.

 

[mellow]

and Raja Bell is in the bottom 25 (6.79).

Not good signs.

Ahh, just like the good old days. I remember the late 80's early 90's when all the Jazz needed was a Shooting Gaurd. Would've, should've , could've Wes Mathews.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Players can make themselves better shooters, at least spot-up shooters, once they get in the league. D. Wade wasn't a good shooter when he was a rookie. Bryon Russel couldn't hit jack, neither could Howard Eisley, when they started out.

But yeah, he should be able to hit an open shot.

 

[Hopper]

What, you don't know how to use the PM?

Yeah, right, eh, Squealboy? You're the dime-dropper deluxe round this here joint, eh? If I could git the lease on that pay phone on your corner, I would be a millionaire. Every admin and his brutha would be notified in seconds.

 

[Jazz Spazz]

Bitches very rarely say what they want to say. It's always some excuse as to why they can't. What, you don't know how to use the PM? Im sure your mother is proud she raised a bigot. Bigot.

Personal attack? You should report yourself.

 

[footawn]

if gordon has 1 good game, he will be in an article about breakout/surprisingly great rookies.

 

[vslice02]

Hayward has 1 problem right now and that's that he doesn't know how to use the offense for his benefit. Think about the 26 points he scored against the Lakers in the preseason. Sure - alot of that was due to Devin Ebanks not having a clue defensively - but alot his points came off cutting to the basket where he either finished at the rim or got to the line.

In the regular season he's not cutting hard enough, instead he's spending too much time floating around the 3pt line - which isn't effective because he's not a consistent perimeter shooter. Alot of talk about watching film, someone should give Hayward a DVD of Ronnie Brewer's cuts in the halfcourt offense because that's how he needs to play - cutting hard off the ball where he can either get layups or take advantage of his ability to pass off the dribble. He sucks defensively but again most 20-year old rookies do. However, he has to be able to do 1 thing positive out on the floor and so far he's not.