Sacramento Kings @ Utah Jazz: November 22nd, 2010 7:00 MST
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InGameStrategy
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Fesenko doing a good job at preventing shots in the paint from going in.
Including his own.
(To put things in perspective, Elson and Fes came away with the same # of points and RBs.)
Fes is 0-3 from the charity stripe tonight. 2 for 15+ since the Laker game (playoffs?) in free throws, says Locke.
Elson/Jefferson, Fesenko, Miles, Price, and Watson outscored the Kings 23 to 10 in the first 8 minutes of the 2nd quarter.
This combination benefitted greatly from a 13-point barrage by CJ.
I still am skeptical of the value of playing Elson and Fesenko together, but it's clear that the defense is superior with either or both out there. In the second quarter, all but two baskets by the Kings were from 3-point range or the charity stripe.
Darkwing Duck
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lol at Harpring chastising Boler for stealing his promo.
Darkwing Duck
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Yeah, but he's committing stupid fouls, makes the Jazz play 4 on 5 on offense, didn't secure a rebound on the baseline like he should have. Kind of a poor effort, in all actuality.
Fakers Luck
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FSN flashed CJ's stats:
CJ 20 pts, 4ast, 2 blk, 1/3 3pt?
No way he only made 1 three? All around game?
CJ 20 pts, 4ast, 2 blk, 1/3 3pt?
No way he only made 1 three? All around game?
Fakers Luck
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Fes really clogged the lane. Again with a good +/- of 13 (led team).
He absolutely owned Cousins.
LifeOnaPlate
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Not sure why Fes ain't getting more play, but he did exit the game very winded at one point.
billyshelby
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What the hell was Deron doing in the game in the 4th? Pure stat move. Stupid as hell.
InGameStrategy
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He often does commit stupid fouls, and yes, he's not giving 100% out there (not that anyone does, especially not Jefferson this year). Yet despite the stupid fouls, the poor shooting, and suboptimal effort, Fes led the team in +/-, just like he has done multiple times this season (and previously). If that happens once or twice, it might be a coincidence. More than that is a trend.
It's still not clear to me how much it was Fes's illness, other off-court behavior, or the coaches' ignorance that have kept him off the court. You would hope that a player wouldn't be so cold after repeated near-DNPs, but some of his poor shooting (and other aspects) is attributable to not having minutes in recent games--whatever the reason.
billyshelby
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Miles second quarter tonight was better than his 4th the other night. Alright, maybe not. But he did EVERYTHING in that 2nd. A block, fantastic passing, and all those shots. Just carried the unit on his back.
billyshelby
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Stupid observation: Deron makes tricky behind the back pass in the first to Sap. It's so tricky Sap can't make anything of it. That same pass to Jeff doesn't happen. This does not mean Jeff is bad. But Sap actually handled that pass because he knows Deron, and he knows it's coming. Jeff is going to get to that point. Saw him running a few P&R's tonight that got me excited. We're getting closer.
Darkwing Duck
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There were several Jazz players ahead of Fesenko when plus/minus mattered, namely up to six minutes left in the fourth when Fes decided to pack it in for the night. Whole team kind of did, but Fesenko wasn't on the floor when the Kings made up ten points at the end of the game.
InGameStrategy
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Yeah, Sloan said in the post-game interview that he was protecting against a comeback by the Kings.
That statement is absolutely ridiculous.
When Williams and Bell came in at the 7-1/2-minute mark, Utah was up by 20.
When Jefferson and Millsap came back in at the 3:14 mark, Utah was up by 16.
I don't know what would be scarier, that Sloan believes what he says or that he doesn't believe it but was just giving a lame response.
What was true is that the starters were out there risking injury when they didn't have to be, and young players (mainly Evans) were denied crucial on-court development time, which is indisputably essential to a player's progress.
Oh, and BTW, that "starting" lineup (with Miles instead of Kirilenko) let the game whittle down to an 11-point win.
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InGameStrategy
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You're saying that several Jazz players had a +/- of more than +13 at the 6-minute mark?
And since when does +/- matter at the 6-minute mark, but the last 6 minutes don't matter?
And as I pointed out, the starters took a big chunk of the minutes down the stretch, and they were playing against half Sacramento scrubs. The fact that the Jazz gave up about half of a 20+-point lead against a lineup comprising only a couple of starters does not help your claim.
I think that you're blowing smoke. Besides, Fes doesn't need to lead the team in +/- to warrant more minutes. He had some bad plays tonight, but his overall impact was significant, just as it has been several times this season (during a season in which he has played in only 11 of 15 games), even though his box score was not. That's what centers often do.
As I stated above, unless Jeremy Evans got injured or something, he's the one who should've gotten the last 3 or 4 minutes of the game. And Hayward could've gotten some burn far earlier in the game. I guess I can only take comfort that the coaching staff's obliviousness to player development is not exclusive to Big Fes. This is a game where the bench got the team their lead back and built it even further, which means that it should be a night where players earn more minutes. Elson's and Fes's PT was adequate; but it was a missed opportunity to give the likes of Evans and Hayward more crucial experience.