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NUMBERICA said:
This post is a bunch of obtuse non-sense stringed together. Are you talking about 3s? Where does "high-percentage" or "close-proximity" begin? If you can't spread the floor, how many of those shots are you going to get that are still good?
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Not saying that you shouldn't shoot 3pt shots. You absolutely have to. But it's always been the Jazz MO to first try for layups, etc. 3pt shooting has never been a primary weapon and likely won't be.
 
Doublea said:
In all honesty, Corbin is a pretty good coach, but not one thats going to take us far. I personally don't like how he's managed minutes or the young guys. He has a very strict coaching style and he's not really a specialist in anyway.
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By your criteria, he's not a pretty good coach. A good coach would do all the things you outlined. He's a mediocre coach at best.
 
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NUMBERICA said:
This post is a bunch of obtuse non-sense stringed together. Are you talking about 3s? Where does "high-percentage" or "close-proximity" begin? If you can't spread the floor, how many of those shots are you going to get that are still good?
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Jeditiger said:
Not saying that you shouldn't shoot 3pt shots. You absolutely have to. But it's always been the Jazz MO to first try for layups, etc. 3pt shooting has never been a primary weapon and likely won't be.
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Sloan's teams didn't need to shoot many threes, because of two reasons...

1. They executed the offense to perfection in bothe the Stockton Malone, and D-Will and Boozer eras

2. Both had the threat of making a lot of threes.

Ty's teams just don't execute well, and they seem to shoot more threes and when they do get inside most shots are contested
 
candrew said:
Jazz have been doing this for over 25 years. They did it in the 80's with Mark Eaton. They did it in the 90's with Greg Ostertag. They pretty much abandoned it last decade because they happened to have the best shooting big man in the NBA in Memo so it became more of a two man game between D-Will and Memo which resulted in easy pick and pops.

Here's the thing - they did it in the 80's and 90's for two reason - to pass the ball to a wing player on an off-ball screen or, chiefly, to create spacing for their post player - but when Favors is on the court and 22 feet from the basket THEY HAVE NO ****ING POST PLAYER because Kanter is on the bench. So now one of two things happens - Favors swings the ball to the other side of the court; which could have easily been done by the player bringing the ball up the court or a wing player comes around Favors while he hands the ball off to him. This is Corbin basketball at its finest. So now you have a player with the ball in his hands, 20+ feet out, dribbling full speed and parallel to the basket.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qileP4bAzek

This is a useless exercise. Hayward does nothing with this, Garrett does nothing with this, Burks does nothing with this. Burke has the speed to create something off this maybe 5% of the time. The other 95% of the time nothing ever ****ing happens other then blowing 3-7 seconds off the shot clock
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THERE IS NO POINT in favors evans or kanter getting the ball there.

its USELESSS. LOSES time from the lcock

and we are not in the 80's and 90s anymore
 
franklin said:
This simply is not true. Spurs run the same stuff as the Jazz with pnr as the bailout option. They don't reset much because it's a waste of shot clock and stagnates everything.

What you're really complaining about is execution, which requires talent.
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so your saying corbin is just as good as poppovich systemwise.
onnly that pop has more talented roster?


okay
 
Doublea said:
In all honesty, Corbin is a pretty good coach, but not one thats going to take us far. I personally don't like how he's managed minutes or the young guys. He has a very strict coaching style and he's not really a specialist in anyway.
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strict coaching style?


STRICT?


hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha


foye chestbumping him said it all.



nothing strict about corbin.


ooh wait when youngsters make msitakes he is stirct
when vet suck he does nothing.
 
Thee jazz fan said:
Ty's teams just don't execute well, and they seem to shoot more threes and when they do get inside most shots are contested
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True, Corbin offense is to play 1-on-1...neither Favors nor Kanter have often easy baskets, they have frequently to create their own shots.

I don't understand another thing, why Marvin has the green light to shoot 3s but instead Kanter not?
 
Diamond77 said:
True, Corbin offense is to play 1-on-1...neither Favors nor Kanter have often easy baskets, they have frequently to create their own shots.

I don't understand another thing, why Marvin has the green light to shoot 3s but instead Kanter not?
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He rarely plays next to Favors, and always with either Williams or Evans. Williams is better outside, and Evans has no post game meaning Kanter has no choice but to play inside, plus how do you know Kanter can hit threes with any consistency?
 
Diamond77 said:
True, Corbin offense is to play 1-on-1...neither Favors nor Kanter have often easy baskets, they have frequently to create their own shots.

I don't understand another thing, why Marvin has the green light to shoot 3s but instead Kanter not?
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Marvin = VET

kanter = NOOB
 
Thee jazz fan said:
plus how do you know Kanter can hit threes with any consistency?
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Has ever Marvin hit threes with consistency in his career? (except this season)

Enes is the only player in the roster that has always to prove something and earn his minutes! I call it discrimination.

Any excuse is good to justify Corbin.
 
Thee jazz fan said:
Sloan's teams didn't need to shoot many threes, because of two reasons...

1. They executed the offense to perfection in bothe the Stockton Malone, and D-Will and Boozer eras

2. Both had the threat of making a lot of threes.

Ty's teams just don't execute well, and they seem to shoot more threes and when they do get inside most shots are contested
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The game has changed beside the fact that Malone was a beast on the block when he was young. Jazz executed so well because they played together for years but people forget that Malone and Stockton teams turned the ball over too. They had a great 3 pt shooter in Horny and Byron Russell was pretty good too. However they shoot more three points because Ty allows them to do so and because the NBA is more 3 pt oriented not because of bad execution.
 
Diamond77 said:
Has ever Marvin hit threes with consistency in his career? (except this season)

Enes is the only player in the roster that has always to prove something and earn his minutes! I call it discrimination.

Any excuse is good to justify Corbin.
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I think he shot 38% the year before he joined the Jazz
 
Thee jazz fan said:
I wasn't arguing with you about it, but no one knows he even can hit threes, because no one has ever seen him do it. Plus he's too good in the post to be sitting at the 3point line.
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He does it all the time in practice and has talked about how he can.
 
Doublea said:
He does it all the time in practice and has talked about how he can.
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Who knows what there is behind the choice to not let him shoot threes.

We are not tanking, so if he hits 3s with success it is an advantage. Maybe Corbin wants to protect the veterans playing times....ehehe
 
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