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The OFFICIAL don't draft Joel Embiid thread

Just wanted to compile some stats, but here are Embiids numbers in games that he's received over 25 minutes (there were 9 of them).

13 PPG
8.3 RPB
1.4 APG
3.5 BPG
1.1 SPG
3.3 TO
3.4 Fouls

All while shooting 70% from the field and 68.9% from the line, in about 28 MPG.

Those are very impressive numbers, especially when you consider he only shot the ball about 7 times per game. If you aren't impressed by that, then I don't know what to tell ya, but Embiid is the truth. You can see him improve leaps and bounds each game. He's quite impressive.
 
Hantlers said:
Just wanted to compile some stats, but here are Embiids numbers in games that he's received over 25 minutes (there were 9 of them).

13 PPG
8.3 RPB
1.4 APG
3.5 BPG
1.1 SPG
3.3 TO
3.4 Fouls

All while shooting 70% from the field and 68.9% from the line, in about 28 MPG.

Those are very impressive numbers, especially when you consider he only shot the ball about 7 times per game. If you aren't impressed by that, then I don't know what to tell ya, but Embiid is the truth. You can see him improve leaps and bounds each game. He's quite impressive.
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good point, repped.

Though I still feel his rebounding should be closer to having a double double.
 
LogGrad98 said:
He also stayed 2 more years in college, and worked on improving his game before moving to the NBA.



I don't know why some of these "raw" prospects don't learn from the path taken by many of the greats of the game.
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There is a thread somewhere that talks about all the guys who stayed in school and lost lots o money because of it
 
Beantown said:
Give me a break. Don't try and throw race into this. Its a fact, we have seen plenty of big men from African nations come and go. They rarely ever stick in the league. They have only played basketball for a few years, they are raw and then they never develop.

Look at Thabeet, he didn't start playing basketball until he was 15. He had REALLY impressive college numbers and then in the NBA he couldn't do anything. His skinny frame was unable to compete in the NBA.

How many skinny NBA centers in the league are dominating right now? Doesn't matter if they are black, white, blue or red. A really thin framed NBA center will never succeed in the league. Unless they have elite length.

The only guy that goes against this is Joakim Noah. But he is from NY and has played basketball his entire life and he still struggles against bigger centers.
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Have you watch the kid play? Things to like about him. He might look skinny but I have never seen him getting pushed around. His upper body looks strong plus this is something he can improve on. Besides the NBA is different today, you need a center who can run not some guy like Mark Eaton. You say he doesn't do anything elite and you use his stats as evidence. You do realize that he is on a team that has a lot of talent so his stats are not going to be as high. There are plenty of guys in college (i.e Jimmer) who have great college stats but are nothing more than a complimentary player once they enter the NBA.

I would argue that his shot-blocking is at a elite level regardless of what the stats say. As he learns the game he will be even be better at it. For a guy who has only played the game a few years his basketball IQ is high. He knows how to pass out of a double team better than Favors and Kanter. His shooting form isn't bad and I think he can develop a nice 15 ft if he works at it. His quickness and athleticism is certainly at a elite level for a center. He is going to run pass centers in the NBA. Thabeet had horrible footwork while Embiid already has elite footwork. Thabeet has a horrible BB IQ and bad handles too.

If I were drafting I certainly would consider taking him number one. I think he is going to be an all-star one day if he works on his game. From everything I have read the kid works hard and is humble.

Maybe the Jazz shouldn't draft Wiggins, he is skinny too.
 
Embiid probably has the highest upside of any of the top players in the draft. He can do just about everything and he's got great instincts defensively, so I don't see the downside. To me, he looks like the best 2-way center prospect since Greg Oden at Ohio State (before his injuries, obviously).
 
To me, Randle looks risky because he depends on his combination of power and speed for the PF position that looks pretty elite in college, but might be fairly average in the pros, kind of a TRob syndrome.
 
Almost every lottery team if not all of them would take Embiid if they had the #1 pick.
If Jazz have #1 take him and trade Kanter, Favors, or Gobert.
Does not seem too risky.
 
Brow is 6ft 9 and change barefoot. Embiid will be listed at 7ft in NBA. i see him being legit 6ft 11. and he has an elite length.

you sir have no idea what you are talking about.


only thing i agree is that he is indeed a project.
 
GVC said:
Per pace adjusted minutes, he's averaging more points AND rebounds than Davis did as a freshman, and scoring more efficiently. His PER (I hate this stat FWIW) is also 2.5 points higher than Davis's was. Embiid's stats are as good as Davis's freshman stats.
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This is incorrect per bball reference.
Davis: 35.1
Embiid: 28.8

With turnovers being the difference maker in the disparity.
 
slc said:
Almost every lottery team if not all of them would take Embiid if they had the #1 pick.
If Jazz have #1 take him and trade Kanter, Favors, or Gobert.
Does not seem too risky.
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not true. i still think jabari parker has a great shot at #1.

march performance will be critical for many of these players.
 
Embiid is the obvious choice at #1. One of the highest ceilings of any big-man in recent memory (he's got a higher ceiling than Brow IMO)
 
PKM said:
Enamored with ceilings this board is..
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Normally we'd be clamouring after some UK player, but it looks like the team is headed for the NIT for a 2nd straight year.
 
Could Sene do this in college?

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