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Seeing as this statement could be applied to thousands of occupations-- to mankind even-- it weakens the scope of your argument considerably, and I have no reason to continue discussion.

Seeing as your harsh, alienating delivery hasn't really garnered a large OB-following in a forum with 2000< posters, I see no reason why it could work in the real world. I'll keep doin me, and you do you.

Why stop at mankind? If the definition is "any living thing that does not produce it's own food", it would be all all non-plant life. If it were, "anything that relies on outside sources for energy", it would be all life. However, if you position is "why make a big deal of people pushing quack medical cures instead of actual medicine", perhaps you should bow out.

I wasn't aware that I needed, or wanted, a following. What I have seen is that slowly, gradually, the conversation moves, and mostly in the direction I would prefer. It may not be influence, almost certainly not entirely, but I am part of the background.

Why do you feel it's so important to have a following? Or, if you don't, why did you bring it up as a criticism?
 
Why stop at mankind? If the definition is "any living thing that does not produce it's own food", it would be all all non-plant life. If it were, "anything that relies on outside sources for energy", it would be all life.

Ah lovely-- you agree with me then.




However, if you position is "why make a big deal of people pushing quack medical cures instead of actual medicine", perhaps you should bow out.

Nope-- rather, I was saying that if you justify your inferred-disgust with homeopaths with terms such as unwilling-parasites (which we agreed on being meaningless), then I perceive the discussion to be not worth my time.

I wasn't aware that I needed, or wanted, a following. What I have seen is that slowly, gradually, the conversation moves, and mostly in the direction I would prefer. It may not be influence, almost certainly not entirely, but I am part of the background.

Why do you feel it's so important to have a following? Or, if you don't, why did you bring it up as a criticism?

Because I simply think that my method of communication, intelligent-discourse, and knowledge-exchange > yours.
 
Wanna see a really cool parasite?

https://phenomena.nationalgeographi...e-eating-fish-parasites-never-cease-to-amaze/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=327-bwMQI-Y&feature=player_embedded


Ooo, that's nasty. Here is a closeup of the thing:

predator.jpg
 
Nope-- rather, I was saying that if you justify your inferred-disgust with homeopaths with terms such as unwilling-parasites (which we agreed on being meaningless), then I perceive the discussion to be not worth my time.

Since when did the definition of parasitism require intent? Since when can't you tell the difference between "unwitting" and "unwilling"?

Because I simply think that my method of communication, intelligent-discourse, and knowledge-exchange > yours.

Feel free to think that. We're all entitled to baseless opinions.
 
Since when did the definition of parasitism require intent?


Because as we've just noticed (and you yourself pointed out), the word parasitism can have various meanings, depending on the motive of he/she who uses the word. Thus, while intent is not a requirement (which is a bit foolish of a point to make, as I made no concrete statement suggesting that intent is a requirement-- but putting words in people's mouths is fun, after all), it does elucidate quite a bit in this instance.



Since when can't you tell the difference between "unwitting" and "unwilling"?

I was speaking in terms of unwitting for the entire conversation in this thread, but a minor autocorrect-error thanks to my laptop accidentally wrote unwitting, as unwilling-- though I'm happy that I provided you an opportunity to sneak in a lil' ad-hominem jab there, Eric :) Unfortunately for you, you have nothing else left in my posts to criticize, so resorting to an auto-corrected error seems like the next logical step.

Boy oh boy, I've gotten an ad-hominem fallacy and an agreement from OneBrow in the same conversation. Let's hope he attacks my faith next, so I can get the hat-trick!



Feel free to think that. We're all entitled to baseless opinions.

My opinion is not what makes it true. It being true is why I hold the opinion-- however baseless it may appear, to those who deny the truth.
 
So what's the verdict?

That every homeopath is a parasite (is that even an insult-- who knows), and that homeopathy is pure quackery, and theres no benefit that can be taken from it.













Well, except when they identify anti-cancerous properties from certain homeopathic tinctures, and use it to hypothesize that they can perhaps be involved in treating illnesses like Pancreatic Cancer & Skin Cancer:


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23354402

We isolated apigenin (5,7,4'-trihydroxy flavone) from ethanolic extract of Lycopodium clavatum (LC) used as a homeopathic mother tincture for treatment of various diseases. We assessed the anticancer potentials of the compound using human malignant melanoma cell line A375 and a lung carcinoma cell line A549 and focussed on its putative molecular mechanism of action on apoptosis induction.....

Collectively, these results suggest that apigenin exhibits anticancer potential in A375 and A549 cells that may be mediated through DNA interaction, damage and mitochondrial dysfunction either by direct or indirect action on mitochondrial oxidative phosphorylation system.


Apigenin potentiates the growth inhibitory effects by IKK-β-mediated NF-κB activation in pancreatic cancer cells.


Efficacy of PLGA-loaded apigenin nanoparticles in Benzo[a]pyrene and ultraviolet-B induced skin cancer of mice: mitochondria mediated apoptotic signalling cascades.
 
Because as we've just noticed (and you yourself pointed out), the word parasitism can have various meanings, depending on the motive of he/she who uses the word. Thus, while intent is not a requirement (which is a bit foolish of a point to make, as I made no concrete statement suggesting that intent is a requirement-- but putting words in people's mouths is fun, after all), it does elucidate quite a bit in this instance.

Do you have any sort of complaint outside of not liking my tone?

...though I'm happy that I provided you an opportunity to sneak in a lil' ad-hominem jab there

Apparently, you can't even tell when you're not being insulted. My post failed to be an ad hominem in three different ways, at least.

...you have nothing else left in my posts to criticize

You have offered nothing in your posts to criticize but tone-trolling. I suspect that's because if you offered any actual content, it would agree with me. Based on your posting history, I would guess you also think homeopathic remedies have no medicinal value, but you seem to think "parasite" is too strong a word for the practitioners. What's to criticize?

, so resorting to an auto-corrected error seems like the next logical step.

Am I supposed to know whether the alternate word was there by auto-correction or deliberate action on your part?

Boy oh boy, I've gotten an ad-hominem fallacy and an agreement from OneBrow in the same conversation. Let's hope he attacks my faith next, so I can get the hat-trick!

Gosh, I'm supposedly being schooled in Netiquette by the guy who 1) tried to intimidate me by threatening to dox me (in a conversation he was not involved in, and where everyone agreed that said doxxing was not relevant) and 2) proceeded to try to dox me when the intimidation attempt failed. You don't have the moral high ground in our history, dalamon.

It's easy to get agreement from me. I never, ever use ad hominem (in fact, I don't bother to insult people at all). I'll save insulting your religion for another thread.

My opinion is not what makes it true. It being true is why I hold the opinion-- however baseless it may appear, to those who deny the truth.

The difference is that when I say that, I can bring evidence to back up my view. You have none. You don't need to be popular to effect change. Sometimes, being unpopular, letting yourself be the gadfly, is even more important than being the conciliator.

Let me ask you this: when was the last time you said to yourself that you were really comfortable with your life, and liked how things were going, so it was time to change things up and make yourself uncomfortable?
 
Well, except when they identify anti-cancerous properties from certain homeopathic tinctures,

We isolated apigenin (5,7,4'-trihydroxy flavone) from ethanolic extract of Lycopodium clavatum (LC) used as a homeopathic mother tincture for treatment of various diseases.

Do you know how homeopathy supposedly works? If so, why would you think a medical study supporting the potential efficacy of a mother tincture would be surprising, or be any counter to the notion that homeopathic remedies are worthless? Did you just Google Scholar homeopathy and pull up any seemingly positive result without thinking about it?

To be clear, I'm not saying I doubt the study any more than any other scientific study; I'm saying that this is not a surprise, but has no relevance to this discussion, because it has little to do with actual homeopathic concoctions.
 
Do you know how homeopathy supposedly works?

I'll respond with a question of my own: what in my post shows that I do not comprehend how homeopathy works?



If so, why would you think a medical study supporting the potential efficacy of a mother tincture would be surprising, or be any counter to the notion that homeopathic remedies are worthless?

Sorry, potential efficacy? What are you saying?


Did you just Google Scholar homeopathy and pull up any seemingly positive result without thinking about it?

Nope. I am involved with oncological research, and have worked with prostate cancer for a little over two years now. I regularly read published academic literature, and present an article of my choice to my lab on roughly a monthly-bimonthly basis. What's your expertise in cell biology?


To be clear, I'm not saying I doubt the study any more than any other scientific study; I'm saying that this is not a surprise, but has no relevance to this discussion, because it has little to do with actual homeopathic concoctions.

Well clearly you are suffering from a failure in reading-comprehension:

Well, except when they identify anti-cancerous properties from certain homeopathic tinctures, and use it to hypothesize that they can perhaps be involved in treating illnesses like Pancreatic Cancer & Skin Cancer

The practice, and isolation of a certain drug used homoeopathically has resulted in it's potential usage in traditional western medicine. In other words, completely relevant to what I was saying. Pls try again Eric. I can do this all day. My brain doesn't have the decades of dust like yours does ;)
 
Do you have any sort of complaint outside of not liking my tone?


In the context of this discussion, and your usage of the words parasite? Well then, yes. I find your tone dismissive, tunnel-visioned, condescending, and the polar opposite of mind-opening.


Apparently, you can't even tell when you're not being insulted. My post failed to be an ad hominem in three different ways, at least.

Whatever you say Eric ;)



You have offered nothing in your posts to criticize but tone-trolling. I suspect that's because if you offered any actual content, it would agree with me.

D'awww!!! Now there's a cute statement. Keep telling yourself that, Rico. No, srsly. Now there's an opiate that could even out-do religion!

Based on your posting history, I would guess you also think homeopathic remedies have no medicinal value, but you seem to think "parasite" is too strong a word for the practitioners. What's to criticize?

Your tone. See above.



Am I supposed to know whether the alternate word was there by auto-correction or deliberate action on your part?

Well I think most would have quickly realized that the entire context of my post made sense when used with the word unwittingly. I do understand that some are slower than others, so I'll try to slow down for you in the future :)



Gosh, I'm supposedly being schooled in Netiquette by the guy who 1) tried to intimidate me by threatening to dox me (in a conversation he was not involved in, and where everyone agreed that said doxxing was not relevant) and 2) proceeded to try to dox me when the intimidation attempt failed. You don't have the moral high ground in our history, dalamon.

Being school in netiquette? Oh gosh no. I would never place myself at such a high-standard. I know you do though, which is why it's so awesome that I managed to squeak an emotional-tirade from ya. Score 1, Dalamon.

It's easy to get agreement from me. I never, ever use ad hominem (in fact, I don't bother to insult people at all).

Well, we all know that this isn't true.


I'll save insulting your religion for another thread.

It's already happened, and I survived. Keep at 'er, I won't mind.



The difference is that when I say that, I can bring evidence to back up my view. You have none.

Aww. Whatever you say, Rico. You are the only one who uses evidence ever. Not once have I ever based any observations, or posts, in empiricism.

You don't need to be popular to effect change. Sometimes, being unpopular, letting yourself be the gadfly, is even more important than being the conciliator.

More important, you say? What makes you think it's more important? Because that doesn't seem like a statement rooted in "evidence to back up your view". Pls share if so.

Let me ask you this: when was the last time you said to yourself that you were really comfortable with your life, and liked how things were going, so it was time to change things up and make yourself uncomfortable?


Plenty of times!
 
I'll respond with a question of my own: what in my post shows that I do not comprehend how homeopathy works?

If I were certain, I would not have asked questions (if they were rhetorical questions, I would not have included "you"). So, I would not say your post showed it, only that there was an indication within the post that this might be an issue. That particular indication was present in the questions themselves. For all I know, you could be trolling, well aware of what I mean, but pretending not to.

You presented a paper that looked at a mother tincture as if it has some value for supporting a homeopathic concoction. I wasn't sure if you understood the difference between a mother tincture and a homeopathic concoction, so I wanted to verify this, in order to better address your argument.

Sorry, potential efficacy? What are you saying?

That a single scientific study means there is some potential for this to be an effective use of the mother tincture, which would need to be verified with additional studies.

Nope. I am involved with oncological research, and have worked with prostate cancer for a little over two years now. I regularly read published academic literature, and present an article of my choice to my lab on roughly a monthly-bimonthly basis. What's your expertise in cell biology?

I have no experience in cell biology. Can you tell me how experience in cell biology gives you any knowledge of homeopathy, or how your answer was in any way relevant to my question? If not Google Scholar, how did you come across this article?

Well clearly you are suffering from a failure in reading-comprehension:

You quoted yourself on this:
Well, except when they identify anti-cancerous properties from certain homeopathic tinctures, and use it to hypothesize that they can perhaps be involved in treating illnesses like Pancreatic Cancer & Skin Cancer
From the original paper:
used as a homeopathic mother tincture for treatment of various diseases.

I still don't know if you understand why the omission of "mother" is relevant.

The practice, and isolation of a certain drug used homoeopathically has resulted in it's potential usage in traditional western medicine. In other words, completely relevant to what I was saying. Pls try again Eric. I can do this all day. My brain doesn't have the decades of dust like yours does ;)

I would not disagree that 'some drugs used in traditional Western medicine are also used homeopahtically', if that's what you meant. Of course homeopaths start with things that are used as drugs. It's the homeopathic preparations that are worthless, and that's why the are relegated to "complementary medicine", or "integrative medicine". If homeopathy worked, it would just be "medicine".

Well then, yes. I find your tone dismissive, tunnel-visioned, condescending, and the polar opposite of mind-opening.

Noted.

Whatever you say Eric ;) ... Rico


Why would you bother being rude like that? I have never referred to you, nor anyone else on this forum at any point, by any handle other than one they have chosen to post by or one they have explicitly endored.

Keep telling yourself that,

I may have given you too much credit. I'm not sure, but I would still guess you basically trolling, and don't believe that the paper you linked says anything about homeopathic formulaitons.

Well I think most would have quickly realized that the entire context of my post made sense when used with the word unwittingly.

It also made sense with the word "unwillingly". Am I supposed to substitute every possible word that could make sense in place of every given adverb? It's not like I claimed your s=explanation was false.

Being school in netiquette? Oh gosh no. I would never place myself at such a high-standard.

That's exactly what you are doing, every time you complain about my tone.

I know you do though, which is why it's so awesome that I managed to squeak an emotional-tirade from ya. Score 1, Dalamon.

By all means, take 10,000 in that game. I don't mind at all. I like being passionate, and your score-keeping won't change that. Then, when you feel your score is high enough, feel free to make a serious point.

Well, we all know that this isn't true.

Everyone knows it so well that they don't feel any need to provide evidence, which is fortunate for them, because there is none. I'll insult ideas, systems of thinking, and bad logic. I don't insult people, because over the years I've held multitudes of inferior ideas, faulty systems, and bad logic. As I pointed out above, I'm so scrupulous in this that I don't even use dimuntives of people's names.

You are the only one who uses evidence ever. Not once have I ever based any observations, or posts, in empiricism.

Since I've repped you in the past for doing that, I'm not impressed with your curent sarcasm.

More important, you say? What makes you think it's more important? Because that doesn't seem like a statement rooted in "evidence to back up your view". Pls share if so.

Social change only happens when people become dissatisfied with the status quo.

Plenty of times!

Please go into an example. I'm genuinely curious.
 
I did enjoy the tone of this most recent post of yours. In fact, most of your posts don't really rub me the wrong way at all-- but the parasite remark did.

If I were certain, I would not have asked questions (if they were rhetorical questions, I would not have included "you"). So, I would not say your post showed it, only that there was an indication within the post that this might be an issue. That particular indication was present in the questions themselves. For all I know, you could be trolling, well aware of what I mean, but pretending not to.

You presented a paper that looked at a mother tincture as if it has some value for supporting a homeopathic concoction. I wasn't sure if you understood the difference between a mother tincture and a homeopathic concoction, so I wanted to verify this, in order to better address your argument.

I did. See my response below.

That a single scientific study means there is some potential for this to be an effective use of the mother tincture, which would need to be verified with additional studies.

I linked three studies right off of recent publications that I have read, and I'm sure if I searched I would find many more.



I have no experience in cell biology. Can you tell me how experience in cell biology gives you any knowledge of homeopathy, or how your answer was in any way relevant to my question? If not Google Scholar, how did you come across this article?

Apigenin (the compound isolated from the mother tincture) is being looked at more around the circles of oncological-research. My question was a direct response to you questioning whether I knew what I was talking about. I initially came across the first article a few months ago when we were talking about Apigenin, and homeopathy in general at a lab-meeting a few months ago-- the latter three are merely supporting articles that have cited the article that I initially referenced. Our lab deals strictly with prostate cancer, and the effects of apigenin have not been looked at in-depth in terms of prostate-cancer. It's something we've considered meddling with.


You quoted yourself on this:

From the original paper:


I still don't know if you understand why the omission of "mother" is relevant.

See below, again.



I would not disagree that 'some drugs used in traditional Western medicine are also used homeopahtically', if that's what you meant.

Not exactly.

Of course homeopaths start with things that are used as drugs.

Nope. In this case, it's a drug that was popularized specifically by homeopathy, over years of what homeopaths considered to be "treatment"-- whether we think it's placebo or not is irrelevant; the fact that we have even considered testing this drug was due to its popularity among the circles of homeopathy.

Just to make sure to hammer my point: even if the homeopathic drops that people take are nothing but water/alcohol/whatever, the mere service of homeopaths identifying certain extracts, and pioneering their usage in medical treatment has opened the eyes of some researchers to test them out in a lab-environment. So at the absolute worst, some homeopaths are responsible for screening certain drugs and bringing them to our attention, before we can refine their treatment in methods that seem more reasonable, physiologically-helpful, and potentially less expensive. So to me, that isn't parasitic.

It's the homeopathic preparations that are worthless, and that's why the are relegated to "complementary medicine", or "integrative medicine". If homeopathy worked, it would just be "medicine".

See above.


I've noticed instantly.



Why would you bother being rude like that? I have never referred to you, nor anyone else on this forum at any point, by any handle other than one they have chosen to post by or one they have explicitly endured.

That's a good question, actually. I'm generally fairly respectful of others, and their privacy. But keep in mind my care for these things dwindles when I perceive people behaving in behaviours such as the ones I mentioned, and you noted.


I may have given you too much credit. I'm not sure, but I would still guess you basically trolling, and don't believe that the paper you linked says anything about homeopathic formulaitons.

suit yourself.

It also made sense with the word "unwillingly". Am I supposed to substitute every possible word that could make sense in place of every given adverb? It's not like I claimed your s=explanation was false.

Again, it's something that to me is fairly obvious, and if I noticed in a post of another's, I wouldn't bother bringing it up. You and I are different people, I suppose.


That's exactly what you are doing, every time you complain about my tone.

Not necessarily-- I'm just providing you some advice.

Everyone knows it so well that they don't feel any need to provide evidence, which is fortunate for them, because there is none. I'll insult ideas, systems of thinking, and bad logic. I don't insult people, because over the years I've held multitudes of inferior ideas, faulty systems, and bad logic. As I pointed out above, I'm so scrupulous in this that I don't even use dimuntives of people's names.

While this could be true (and it isn't difficult for me to take your word for it)-- understand that insulting a person's identity, his ethos, his lifestyle, and his meaning of life can be interchangeable with insulting the person period. Isolating the traits, or characteristics of people from their ideas, systems of thinking, or lifestyles is a preposterous exercise when understanding that much of who we are are direct reflections of the aforementioned characteristics that you feel no shame in insulting.

But of course, that doesn't mean that you shouldn't be allowed to insult a person-- because you should. However, this is where delivery is key. Syntax makes all the difference between offering someone your solemn advice with a genuine intention of helping out-- as opposed to being blunt, condescending, and narrow-minded. This goes-back to much of my mantra that I've shared to you.



Since I've repped you in the past for doing that, I'm not impressed with your curent sarcasm.

I guess it goes to show that I do use evidence in my claims. Sometimes, it can be more veiled than others. FWIW, I've posrepped you a handful of times as well.


Social change only happens when people become dissatisfied with the status quo.

But of course-- but this isn't the same as "letting yourself be the gadfly" and not being a conciliator.



Please go into an example. I'm genuinely curious.

I have midterms all week, so I'm sure I won't have time to entertain you with an example that will satisfy you. But, when reading that question, I tend to split comfort in different realms-- and sometimes you'll sacrifice comfort in one regard to boost comfort in another regard. So, it's hard to measure net gains, or loss in comfort per-se. So yes-- many times, I perform behaviours that seriously compromise one aspect of my comfort, and it can be argued that it isn't sufficiently made up for with comfort in another realm.
 

Huh?


Totally disagree


Where is the data to back this up?


Show me some facts


Your argument is invalid


I honestly dont even see what you are getting at.


This is how every argument goes with you.


Wow. Speechless.
 
I did enjoy the tone of this most recent post of yours.

Interesting. I don't see any change in tone, and didn't feel any change when writing it.

I linked three studies right off of recent publications that I have read, and I'm sure if I searched I would find many more.

I would not be surprised by that.

Nope. In this case, it's a drug that was popularized specifically by homeopathy, over years of what homeopaths considered to be "treatment"-- whether we think it's placebo or not is irrelevant; the fact that we have even considered testing this drug was due to its popularity among the circles of homeopathy.

While I have done very little research on the subject, apigenin seems to be in a variety of foods, and we have long studied the various flavonoids in foods, to my understanding. So, it seems likely we would have have discovered it, regardless.

Just to make sure to hammer my point: even if the homeopathic drops that people take are nothing but water/alcohol/whatever, the mere service of homeopaths identifying certain extracts, and pioneering their usage in medical treatment has opened the eyes of some researchers to test them out in a lab-environment. So at the absolute worst, some homeopaths are responsible for screening certain drugs and bringing them to our attention, before we can refine their treatment in methods that seem more reasonable, physiologically-helpful, and potentially less expensive. So to me, that isn't parasitic.

Instead of "even if", it should be "while". However, it seems your point is that, while the preparations they make have no value that can be determined, the sheer throw-it-against-the-wall-and-see-if-it-sticks recklessness of the method of homeopaths means that, once in a while, they have an idea that proves useful in competent hands, making a small contribution, and therefore they are not parasitic. It goes too far to say they screen drugs, because they do not administer drugs, just water. However, I acknowledge that bring drugs to the attention of scientists is a benefit, and therefore they are not fully parasitic. I'll discontinue using that term.

That's a good question, actually. I'm generally fairly respectful of others, and their privacy. But keep in mind my care for these things dwindles when I perceive people behaving in behaviours such as the ones I mentioned, and you noted.

For me, it's even more important to be polite to the people I have less respect for or care less about. Being polite to people you like is easy; being polite to the people you don't like is a mark of character.

Again, it's something that to me is fairly obvious, and if I noticed in a post of another's, I wouldn't bother bringing it up. You and I are different people, I suppose.

It was obvious to you because you wrote it. I doubt you would find it so obvious in someone else's posts, unless the sentence was uncharacteristically ungrammatical.

While this could be true (and it isn't difficult for me to take your word for it)-- understand that insulting a person's identity, his ethos, his lifestyle, and his meaning of life can be interchangeable with insulting the person period. Isolating the traits, or characteristics of people from their ideas, systems of thinking, or lifestyles is a preposterous exercise when understanding that much of who we are are direct reflections of the aforementioned characteristics that you feel no shame in insulting.

While we latch on to memberships in groups, ideas, and belief systems to give us a direction in an otherwise un-navigable world, it's a category error to confuse our identity with the models we have adopted. Were you a Christian, a Buddhist, or an atheist, you would still be essentially the same person, with the same values and priorities, the same strengths and weaknesses, the same propensities and habits, plus or minus a couple of surface issues. REligious beliefs, or the lack thereof, are only surface veneers. However, veneers can impede sight.

But of course, that doesn't mean that you shouldn't be allowed to insult a person-- because you should. However, this is where delivery is key. Syntax makes all the difference between offering someone your solemn advice with a genuine intention of helping out-- as opposed to being blunt, condescending, and narrow-minded. This goes-back to much of my mantra that I've shared to you.

Isn't interesting how it works differently with different people? This was the most direct, blunt, and frank post you have put into this thread, and I finally feel like we're having a discussion instead of a dance.

In terms of opening people's eyes to a problem, I can point to many testimonies, including my own, where invective was the impetus for actual change. I'm not saying everyone should post like I do. Soft persuasion is important; the kid glove that still does not yield matters. However, strong words also have their benefits.

I guess it goes to show that I do use evidence in my claims.

The conversation would have been shorter is you had used claims with your evidence. :)

But of course-- but this isn't the same as "letting yourself be the gadfly" and not being a conciliator.

The role of the gadfly is to create discomfort by exposing aspects normally hidden.

I have midterms all week, so I'm sure I won't have time to entertain you with an example that will satisfy you. But, when reading that question, I tend to split comfort in different realms-- and sometimes you'll sacrifice comfort in one regard to boost comfort in another regard. So, it's hard to measure net gains, or loss in comfort per-se. So yes-- many times, I perform behaviours that seriously compromise one aspect of my comfort, and it can be argued that it isn't sufficiently made up for with comfort in another realm.

The primary comfort we all seek is comfort with who we are, I suspect. I was very comfortable as a college undergraduate, but I knew that I didn't want to still be one when I was 30. So, I gave up that current comfort and graduated, because it didn't fit with my self-image. Later on, I started working in IT because, even though it didn't feel right for me, not earning money for my kids felt even less right; I was more comfortable in being a provider than I was in being a no-computers person.

Making sacrifices for long-term goals is not a reduction of comfort, but a choice for comfort.
 
Many types of homeopathic preparations have been subjected to double-blind studies, they pass them as often as you would expect them randomly (the green-jelly-bean effect).

They get around it today by making unspecific claims and displaying some form of the "quack miranda" warning on their products.

Did you listen to the Migraine podcast I linked to? It's damn interesting and I think you might like it.
 
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