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Utah Denied A Wet Bandit Trade???!!

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https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2014/02/rejected-round-williams.html

Basically Chad Ford says in his tank ranking insider piece on ESPN that the Jazz declined to trade Williams despite offers of late 1st rounders in 2014.

From the linked article:

"The Jazz rebuffed “one or two” trade proposals before the deadline that would have netted them a late first-round pick in return for Marvin Williams, as Chad Ford of ESPN.com writes in his latest Insider-only “Tank Rank” piece. There were apparently other intriguing offers on the table as well, but Utah chose to hang on to the ninth-year veteran in hopes of re-signing him this summer, Ford writes"

I'd really be interested to know what those exact offers were. Why did DL not pull the trigger?
 
You have to pay 1st rounders guaranteed money. Perhaps in their plans they have cap space allocated for so much dough and another guaranteed rookie contract would foil that. Perhaps they are either going to try and resign him or let him walk.
 
This tells me they want to make a playoff push. Put that with the whole "skipping steps" speech, this means that the Jazz want the #4 pick on lottery night and that means I bet Favors hardly plays the rest of the year, and Kanter, Hayward and Burks lead us to...2, maybe 3 wins to finish the season.

Hallelujah.
 
If it is a guaranteed money issue, they could have always traded or packaged a late first rounder to move up in the draft or they could have drafted a Euro and stashed him overseas. Plus, re-signing Williams is going to be way more expensive than a guaranteed rookie contract.
 
green said:
This tells me they want to make a playoff push. Put that with the whole "skipping steps" speech, this means that the Jazz want the #4 pick on lottery night and that means I bet Favors hardly plays the rest of the year, and Kanter, Hayward and Burks lead us to...2, maybe 3 wins to finish the season.

Hallelujah.
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Are you on acid?



#nTn
 
If true, it's ****ing retarded; any 1st round pick for Marvin is a good haul. Even if he were traded, the Jazz could sign him as a free agent this summer. Not sure I'm buying this story.
 
If this is true DL deserves a kick in the nuts. Wait til he drops to his knees than across the forehead.

I really hope this is not a true story. If the Jazz don't ever plan on playing Kanter and Favors together than.........I am done as a Jazz fan. I can't take this retardation anymore along with this ridiculous loyalty that hinders the teams development from coaching to playing veterans over players that need experience.
 
The Jazz turned down a late first rounder?!!!??

A late first rounder is the most seeked out asset in the NBA, they are invaluable, all the best NBA talent comes from the late 1st round.......
 
GVC said:
If true, it's ****ing retarded; any 1st round pick for Marvin is a good haul. Even if he were traded, the Jazz could sign him as a free agent this summer. Not sure I'm buying this story.
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That's the only reason I'm not freaking out. Really hard to believe this could actually be true.



#nTn
 
green said:
This tells me they want to make a playoff push. Put that with the whole "skipping steps" speech, this means that the Jazz want the #4 pick on lottery night and that means I bet Favors hardly plays the rest of the year, and Kanter, Hayward and Burks lead us to...2, maybe 3 wins to finish the season.

Hallelujah.
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I'm with UGLI here. You see a whole bunch of stuff that isn't there...
 
Beantown said:
The Jazz turned down a late first rounder?!!!??

A late first rounder is the most seeked out asset in the NBA, they are invaluable, all the best NBA talent comes from the late 1st round.......
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/facepalm
 
homeytennis said:
You have to pay 1st rounders guaranteed money. Perhaps in their plans they have cap space allocated for so much dough and another guaranteed rookie contract would foil that. Perhaps they are either going to try and resign him or let him walk.
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Late first rounders wouldn't affect the cap space much, in fact barely more than a 2+ year veteran. A two year vet costs the team $915K next year, while picks 25-30 will be in the $1M to $1.2M range for the first season.

I'm a little surprised that they would pass up Marvin for a first, but then again, maybe not.
* He said he wants to be in Utah
* He's far more talented than anyone they will get #25-#30 (although he will also cost more)
* He may hurt the tank but there are other ways around that (How are you feeling, Marvin? Any nagging injuries?)
 
No team in the playoffs that has a late first round pick can absorb Marvin's contract. The Jazz would have had to taken someone back. Probably a bad contract. Don't be too pissed if DL did turn this deal down.
 
Biggs said:
No team in the playoffs that has a late first round pick can absorb Marvin's contract. The Jazz would have had to taken someone back. Probably a bad contract. Don't be too pissed if DL did turn this deal down.
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eggsackly.
 
Biggs said:
No team in the playoffs that has a late first round pick can absorb Marvin's contract. The Jazz would have had to taken someone back. Probably a bad contract. Don't be too pissed if DL did turn this deal down.
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This is why I want to see exactly what the proposed trade was. What Utah sent out and what we got back.
 
I'm guessing the picks came with bad multi-year contracts that would affect our cap situation and ability to offer Kanter, Hayward and Burks deals this offseason.
 
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