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Utah Denied A Wet Bandit Trade???!!

kabenac said:
"It don't happen?" Yeah - noone has ever re-signed with Utah. 'It don't happen'. Should have traded for that late-first round pick who would have been an MVP all-star, no doubt.
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Look up how many times a team has traded away an expiring player and then resigned them that offseason. That is what he is saying.
 
Beantown said:
I think the difference is your don't value having good guys on the team to help lead and develop the young guys. Marvin isn't that good. But he plays the game right and he's a good guy.

Same thing for John Lucas. He sucks *** but hes a good locker room guy and he's a good example to the younger players.

If you have a roster full of kids you are just setting yourself up for failure.
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I'll bet you a thousand dollars you'd be singing a different tune if Marv or JL3 were gay.
 
[size/HUGE] fixed [/size];773918 said:
Look up how many times a team has traded away an expiring player and then resigned them that offseason. That is what he is saying.
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If that's what he meant then I agree 100%. I thought he was referring to the fact there's no chance Williams would re-sign with us in free agency. If I misinterpreted I do apologize.

I like Williams. And although it's useful having a guy who can play multiple positions, I agree - he should be playing SF. Physically, he's been getting beaten up by PFs this year.
 
It's not about Marv being better than a late first-- it's about making a move to secure a higher draft-pick in a season where we won't be making the playoffs, and get some sort of return in the mean-time.


I understand that keeping Marv here for the entire season gives us a better chance of picking him up again in the offseason (as opposed to trading him, then trying to bid for him again)-- but we got to figure out our priorities:


Would we rather have a worse record, and draft a player like Jabari? Or do we want to take a gamble with a 7th-10th pick, and secure a decent stretch-four?


Personally, I see the most glaring hole in our roster being a lack of a consistent scorer, or a player we can build an offense around. Consequently, clearing up cap-space and acquiring more tradable assets while worsening our team record seems to be the solution here.
 
If we really want a late first we can just purchase one, no? I'd bet the interest was from San Antonio and we would have had to take something back. Not interested in giving Marvin to San Antonio because Screw Them!
 
dalamon said:
It's not about Marv being better than a late first-- it's about making a move to secure a higher draft-pick in a season where we won't be making the playoffs, and get some sort of return in the mean-time.


I understand that keeping Marv here for the entire season gives us a better chance of picking him up again in the offseason (as opposed to trading him, then trying to bid for him again)-- but we got to figure out our priorities:


Would we rather have a worse record, and draft a player like Jabari? Or do we want to take a gamble with a 7th-10th pick, and secure a decent stretch-four?


Personally, I see the most glaring hole in our roster being a lack of a consistent scorer, or a player we can build an offense around. Consequently, clearing up cap-space and acquiring more tradable assets while worsening our team record seems to be the solution here.
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WTF?

LAst week you were all "Marv 4 MVP's" on us
 
With that said, I'm a huge Marvin fan, and I'd love to see him finish his career out with the Jazz. He brings a lot to the table, and he'll only grow more valuable with the recent trends of today's NBA.

However, a player like Marv is more replaceable than a chance at drafting elite talent-- so you gotta deal with odds, and figure out what's best.


I trust Dennis Lindsey, so I'm not gonna overreact about this-- but on first impression, I would easily trade Mavin Williams for an early-20th pick + salary filler.
 
UGLI baby said:
WTF?

LAst week you were all "Marv 4 MVP's" on us
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Last week I said that Marvin isn't just playing well cuz it's a contract year-- he's an extremely talented player, and he has had even better production in his past.

I mentioned nothing about how he fits into our long-term plans, or whether I'd be okay with trading him.
 
The biggest thing to me, is that I don't think this ever happened in as simple and straight forward of a way as the article is presenting.
 
Also, for the 10 thousandth time, Marvin getting playing time has little effect on the tank. You want to tank it is all about playing JL3 over Burks. Do that and none of the rest of it matters. You could also just march out sans point guard and play 4 on 5. It would only be slightly more obvious at that point.
 
dalamon said:
Last week I said that Marvin isn't just playing well cuz it's a contract year-- he's an extremely talented player, and he has had even better production in his past.

I mentioned nothing about how he fits into our long-term plans, or whether I'd be okay with trading him.
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You're a clown bro.

Straight up clown.

A ****ing Candann downs clown.

Delete my phone #
 
framer said:
If we really want a late first we can just purchase one, no? I'd bet the interest was from San Antonio and we would have had to take something back. Not interested in giving Marvin to San Antonio because Screw Them!
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Obviously you don't trade Marv for a >25s pick, but if a team like the Mavericks offered a 22nd pick + some short, cheap contract for Marv, that's something you consider.
 
Don't care what y'all say, it matters whether or not a dude is gay.

Ask yourself this....

Would you ever date a dude who wasnt?
 
UGLI baby said:
You're a clown bro.

Straight up clown.

A ****ing Candann downs clown.

Delete my phone #
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Hahaha. Re-read my posts man. A few months ago we even got into a conversation with Marv, and I said I'd be okay with trading him. You yourself said that you think it was much too late to trade Marv, as the damage had already been done. And that you were losing faith in Dennis, and that you hoped something would happen at the deadline.
 
dalamon said:
Hahaha. Re-read my posts man. A few months ago we even got into a conversation with Marv, and I said I'd be okay with trading him. You yourself said that you think it was much too late to trade Marv, as the damage had already been done. And that you were losing faith in Dennis, and that you hoped something would happen at the deadline.
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Why would he do that? THIS IS DRAMA!!!!
 
dalamon said:
Hahaha. Re-read my posts man. A few months ago we even got into a conversation with Marv, and I said I'd be okay with trading him. You yourself said that you think it was much too late to trade Marv, as the damage had already been done. And that you were losing faith in Dennis, and that you hoped something would happen at the deadline.
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