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Gordon's shooting this year:
40.7 fg%, 31.3 3pt %, 81.8 ft
Career: (this years struggles included)
43.6 fg%, 37.2 3pt%, 81.3 ft%

I'm not ignoring Gordon's shooting numbers. You just never presented them. You make wild general assumption before you researched what your talking about.

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JoelHodgeJr said:
Gordon's shooting this year:
40.7 fg%, 31.3 3pt %, 81.8 ft
Career: (this years struggles included)
43.6 fg%, 37.2 3pt%, 81.3 ft%

I'm not ignoring Gordon's shooting numbers. You just never presented them. You make wild general assumption before you researched what your talking about.

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Was that supposed to strengthen your argument??? Look at those numbers!
 
Yes it does. As I stated before Gordon has proven that he. Can score at a reliable rate. He did it for three straight seasons. This season is the outlier (you do know what a outlier is right?).

For some reason Gordon has struggled with his shot this year. I'm not arguing that Hayward is shooting well this year. I'm arguing that he shot well every other year in his career. I believe that with the correct adjustments he can return to his stronger shooting numbers.

When/if that happens then his elite passing and all around strong play will be a tremendous asset.

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The Thriller said:
Define "good."

I don't think a good playoff team can win with him starting.

His shot is too inconsistent and he's just too soft.

Nearly sub .400 percent FG and nearly sub .300 percent 3 pt FG. The fact we ignore that most WC starting SFs are shooting 10-15 percent better than Hayward just goes to show the extent of the blind worshipping we have towards a pretty average/bad player. I took hell when I bashed Kirilenko. I fully expect to take hell for bashing yet another white player who just isn't very good.

Those who focus on his "court vision" are merely making excuses for his ****ty shooting and piss poor ability to drive and score. I don't think a team will be able to win consistently with him starting. Just like Gordon Kirilenko, he's best suited for a sucky team or coming off the bench for a few mins on a good team. He just doesn't shoot well enough

PGs create. SF's finish. Here in utah we seem to believe the opposite. Which is weird because isn't that what we got Trey to do?

We here in utah bash Melo and JR constantly as overrated losers who cannot win.

Yet both shoot a much higher percentage than Hayward. If Hayward were black, had tats, and cornrows, I'm guessing that we would be a lot less patient with him.we see this with burks. When he doesn't shoot well, he sucks. When Hayward doesn't shoot well, he has good court vision and/or he does things which don't show up in the box score.... Yep, uh-huh,right.
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5th option on a playoff team?

would he make san antoon better?
 
Lol. I get an infection responding to Thriller's none sense, and incomes all the thriller hate, just doing what I can. I love how Thriller brings up all the weaknesses and faults but none of the good.

I'm pretty sure the hate from thriller started rolling in during the second half when the whole team struggled, but heaven forbid he mentions how great Hayward was at running the offense and not taking bad shots. Thriller has his own agenda, but whatever.
 
JoelHodgeJr said:
Yes it does. As I stated before Gordon has proven that he. Can score at a reliable rate. He did it for three straight seasons. This season is the outlier (you do know what a outlier is right?).

For some reason Gordon has struggled with his shot this year. I'm not arguing that Hayward is shooting well this year. I'm arguing that he shot well every other year in his career. I believe that with the correct adjustments he can return to his stronger shooting numbers.

When/if that happens then his elite passing and all around strong play will be a tremendous asset.

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The thing is he's not either a leader type or number one score option so he's been struggling under the pressure. But this does not mean he's luxury to the team. He needs a true PG who can handle the pressure, settle the players to shoot and let him become point forward in some min not the main ball handler. Also, the offensive flow gotta be faster, the spacing must be better so he can become spot up shooter and be agressive while going to the rim.
 
sojodave said:
The Jazz are now 1-25 when Kanter starts. This stat drives the Kanter lovers CRAZY!
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Then Bucks must be more crazy when Brandon Knight or Ilyasova starts or Philly must be same too when T Young. The thing is Jazz team is really one of the worst in the league which handled by one of the worst coaches
 
DutchJazzer said:
5th option on a playoff team?

would he make san antoon better?
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No. He couldn't even start for SA.

KL is a better player than Hayward and Green is one of their most important players due to his ability to keep defenses honest. He would be SA's 6th or 7th man depending on where you want to put Manu.
 
The Thriller said:
No. He couldn't even start for SA.

KL is a better player than Hayward and Green is one of their most important players due to his ability to keep defenses honest. He would be SA's 6th or 7th man depending on where you want to put Manu.
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So, even if he couldn't start for the Spurs, which is highly debatable he can't make them better?!?!
 
The Thriller said:
No. He couldn't even start for SA.

KL is a better player than Hayward and Green is one of their most important players due to his ability to keep defenses honest. He would be SA's 6th or 7th man depending on where you want to put Manu.
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Haha this guy.
 
Thee jazz fan said:
You said "No. He wouldn't even start". And that's in answer to the statement he'd improve the spurs.

That's exactly how it sounds.


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Wow. So not starting means he wouldn't improve them? It looks to me like you're seeing what you want to read regardless of what is actually written.
 
Doublea said:
I'm really not a "Hayward Homer", but I'm not dumb enough to only see what he's bad at.
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He's not a starting wing for a playoff team due to his inconsistent shot. It's that simple. Playoff teams depend on role players fulfilling their roles night in and night out. Hayward doesn't have the shot to do this. Yay, so he has good vision for his position. Cheerio. But the most important aspect, shooting the ball, to correctly space the floor for 5 on 5 basketball, he cannot do.

Basketball is pretty simple folks.
 
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