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Embiid and Parker are Leaning Towards Returning to School

On a Scale of 1-10, How Scared Are You?

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    Votes: 9 19.6%

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    Votes: 1 2.2%

  • 3

    Votes: 3 6.5%

  • 4

    Votes: 4 8.7%

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    Votes: 4 8.7%

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    Votes: 3 6.5%

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    Votes: 6 13.0%

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    Votes: 4 8.7%

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    Votes: 4 8.7%

  • 10

    Votes: 8 17.4%
  • Total voters
    46
I think if we land the number one pick and all the players are in the draft I could see the Jazz trying to do what I suggested and try to get Philly's #11 pick via NOLA. Then I could see them trying to get back into the top five or 6 if they really like a player and offering #11, #23, Kanter, and Burke if they think that Exum or someone like that is a stud. In my book if all of the top 5 guys are projected to be all stars one day I would even trade Favors or Burks if that was what was needed.

The team that I could see going for a deal under the right circumstances is Milwakee. They put together a veteran team this year because they wanted to be a 6-8 seed in the playoffs. If they want a PG at #4 or a PF they might be choosing between Randle and Exum but if they worry Randle is too small or they wonder if Exum is a true PG... they might like a combo of Burke/Kanter & #11. (Of course under my scenario we have already drafted Embiid). It may also be that Exum is gone and they may be choosing between Parker/Randle... I still think that combo gives them a lot. A PG of the future, a PF with touch to pair with a defensive minded center in Sanders and whoever they pick at #11...

Imagine:

Embiid and Exum/Parker or Randle.

I would love it if we ended up with 2 of the top 6 players in this draft. A team like Milwakee might just be interested in something like that. I would even take on the two years of Mayo's contract to do something like this if we could get Exum or Parker at #4.
 
Just to follow up:

Why would Milwakee do this? There is no bet that Parker or Exum are going to pan out. They could be the next Wesly Johnson or Evan Turner. With my package of say: Kanter/Burke and #11 we could probably get it done. If we didn't get #11, it might have to be #23, taking on Mayo, and Kanter/Burke. This way Milwakee guarantee's themselves a starting PG who is a leader and could blossom in the east. They guarantee themselves a future 18/10 PF in Kanter with the defensive minded Center in Sanders to run out next to him. They also get either the number #11 say Rodney Hood or McDermott or whoever they like. They may even do this for Burke/Kanter and taking on Mayo.

I know some people love Burke but if it is Exum we are getting we are covered. If it is Parker then we sign a veteran PG like Livingston. The point is, Burke believe it or not will be considered a bust or a bottom 5 PG in the league next year if he doesn't dramatically increase his production. He is far from sure bet to be our PG of the future.

I think flipping him at the draft to move up is a sale high situation. I just see Milwakee as a prime target to rid themselves of their mistakes and add to their depth and youth.
 
blackham9258 said:
I think if we land the number one pick and all the players are in the draft I could see the Jazz trying to do what I suggested and try to get Philly's #11 pick via NOLA. Then I could see them trying to get back into the top five or 6 if they really like a player and offering #11, #23, Kanter, and Burke if they think that Exum or someone like that is a stud. In my book if all of the top 5 guys are projected to be all stars one day I would even trade Favors or Burks if that was what was needed.

The team that I could see going for a deal under the right circumstances is Milwakee. They put together a veteran team this year because they wanted to be a 6-8 seed in the playoffs. If they want a PG at #4 or a PF they might be choosing between Randle and Exum but if they worry Randle is too small or they wonder if Exum is a true PG... they might like a combo of Burke/Kanter & #11. (Of course under my scenario we have already drafted Embiid). It may also be that Exum is gone and they may be choosing between Parker/Randle... I still think that combo gives them a lot. A PG of the future, a PF with touch to pair with a defensive minded center in Sanders and whoever they pick at #11...

Imagine:

Embiid and Exum/Parker or Randle.

I would love it if we ended up with 2 of the top 6 players in this draft. A team like Milwakee might just be interested in something like that. I would even take on the two years of Mayo's contract to do something like this if we could get Exum or Parker at #4.
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In Russia we have new drug Krokodil that make you think this thing is possible.
 
Not worried about Parker or Embiid not declaring. Next year will feature three bigs (Okafor, Turner, Alexander) who are all potential #1 picks with arguably higher ceilings than anybody this year.
 
Not worried about drafting either scrub, but if they don't enter then Gordon is the clear cut #2 pick. That would suck.
 
green said:
Look at next year's roster:

Burke, nothing
Burks, nothing
Wiggins, nothing
Kanter, Evans
Favors, Gobert

If you think that team is competing for the playoffs, you will be MASSIVELY disappointed.
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If you think the jazz will have a 7 man roster then you are wrong. And dumb
 
It's pretty hard to turn down a top-3, or, at worst, a top-five selection. So that soothes me.

But, in addition to that, this is also a draft where MAJOR MARKETS will have high picks (LAL, BOS, PHI), which has got to be pretty appealing to the bottom-dollar consciousness.

Seriously, if Parker and/or Embiid decide to stay......... they're ****ing tards.
 
green said:
That long with the fanbase? One year? They haven't pushed their luck with anything. Their attendance is still good. Their ticket sales are still good. People are still watching on tv. T-shirts are still selling.

The Millers are making a lot of money this year off the Jazz. They haven't pushed anything yet.
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I've spent a lot this year, but a guy in my neighborhood who is pretty high up in Fanzz says sales this year have been horrible.

If they don't make any big moves and stay well under the cap they may make some money next year even if we still suck.


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[size/HUGE] fixed [/size];797124 said:
It's pretty hard to turn down a top-3, or, at worst, a top-five selection. So that soothes me.

But, in addition to that, this is also a draft where MAJOR MARKETS will have high picks (LAL, BOS, PHI), which has got to be pretty appealing to the bottom-dollar consciousness.

Seriously, if Parker and/or Embiid decide to stay......... they're ****ing tards.
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Good point.

Parker, Embiid, use your ****ing brains.
 
it makes zero sense to stay. they aren't going to prove anything ask Smart he would have been the top pick last year and he is now in the top ten maybe.
 
Now that Jabari's season is done, I think the Jabari and Bennett discussion/comparison should come back in our discussions.


Per 40 Stats
Player 1:

G, FG, FGA, FG%, 2P, 2PA, 2P%, 3P, 3PA, 3P%, FT, FTA, FT%,TRB, AST, STL, BLK,TOV, PF, PTS

35,8.8, 18.6, .473, 7.4, 14.6, .504, 1.4, 3.9, .358, 6.0, 8.0, .748, 11.4, 1.5, 1.4, 1.6, 3.0, 3.1, 25.0


Player 2:

G, FG, FGA, FG%, 2P, 2PA, 2P%, 3P, 3PA, 3P%, FT, FTA, FT%, TRB, AST, STL, BLK,TOV, PF, PTS

35, 8.5,16.0,.533, 7.0, 11.9, .587, 1.5, 4.0, .375, 5.2, 7.5, .701, 12.0, 1.4, 1.0, 1.8, 2.7, 3.4, 23.7


They are the same height at 6'8". There is only a 5 lb differential in weight between them. They played the exact same number of college games.



Kind of scary, eh? This is the danger of a tweener. On one hand he could be Carmello, and on the other he could be Anthony Bennett.
 
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Avery said:
Not worried about Parker or Embiid not declaring. Next year will feature three bigs (Okafor, Turner, Alexander) who are all potential #1 picks with arguably higher ceilings than anybody this year.
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I love the NBA draft. Every year, the next year's draft is awesome. Then come draft time, the draft is now deemed over-rated. BUT, wait until next year. There is *insert 1-3 names* that will be much better than anyone this year. Ha ha. The grass is always greener.
 
More fuel to my two year tank theory:

Did anyone hear Randy Rigby last night? He talked about how this is a slow process, that they would be adding a very talented, but very young (he specifically said 19-22 year old) player to add to all our other young players. He talked about how Burke is a top 3 player from last year's draft, but he has had his ups and downs, and how we need to be patient with the team and really enjoy the development of the kids, even if it takes a little longer than we expect.

Mark it down, you heard it here first, we will tank another year. OKC model.
 
According to sources, Duke star, Jabari Parker, is "stuck in the middle" about whether he will declare for the NBA Draft or stay at Duke. Don't you love Twitter "According to sources", that's awesome.
 
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