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harden just doesnt play defense at all.

lmao

parker would fit right in here with the utah jazz where nobody plays defense.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
Can't wait to see our defense with Kanter/Parker/Burke on the floor at the same time.
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Don't forget Burks...

PKM said:
I don't think that's quite the case. He's able to play either on offense, imo... but will get slaughtered by most NBA SF's on D.

So, as is often the case, it will be a matchups thing.
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I see one difficulty. Take a Center who can stretch the court and play pick and pop.
Either you put Jabari on him and he has a very difficult task of contesting a 7 footer, hedging and/sliding with a guard, reading the ballhandler.
Or you have Jabari closer to the basket as helper. This would also give a strong PF the option to abuse Jabari inside or open some lanes that he can't contest.

[size/HUGE] fixed [/size];810483 said:
That's what I thought. Because of this, I don't see how he goes earlier than 3.

I'm having a hard time remembering a tweener with more hype than Jabari.
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the top2 from 2008 were very hyped in that regard. Rose had playmaking question marks attached and Beasley about his size and how his faceup perimeter game would translate.

PointGod_AlecBurks said:
Anyone have some players theyd like to see the Jazz sign if undrafted?

i think most of these guys make their way into the second round but surely some wont

Josh Huestis, Jabari Brown, Markel Brown, Kendall Williams, Bryce Cotton, Fuquan Edwin, CJ Fair, Thanasis Antetokounmpo, Leo Westermann, Melvin Ejim, Devyn Marble, Dwight Powell, Cory Jefferson, Lamar Patterson

if Shaq Goodwin, Khem Birch, Jordan Mickey or Jerian Grant were to declare and go undrafted id give them a strong look too, same with Damien Ingles of France and Wang Zhelin of China
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Mike Schmitz from dx just pimped Niels Giffey's role player potential in the PIT tourney. He'll get a summer league opportunity somewhere. Really like the guy's play from last eurobasket.
 
PointGod_AlecBurks said:
the jazz dont really have any SF's under contract for next year though, so unless you feel that all the SF's on the team have to be able to shoot im not sure thats a legit concern. hes clearly a project, thats in part why i made the Jeremy Evans comparison.

I was thinking along the lines of if we had Jabari starting at PF it might be in our best interests to have an alpha athlete at SF just incase

his shooting needs lots of work and he just doesnt have much confidence at this point, often left open for 15-18 footers but he did manage to jump his FT% from .562 to .674, i dont think his shootings hopeless, it looks decent out of his hand (0:40 in the vid)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVN7L0ik4j0
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Yes I think it is paramount that our SF be able to create his own shot and make 3pts. Did we not learn anything from Ronnie Brewer pick? It is a hugh gamble hoping he can develop his shot when he didn't in two years of college. He only shot 20 3pt in his college career which is amazing.
 
it is amazing how many people are defeatists.

before the injury kanter wasn't an awful defender.

Jabari is a smart player and smart players can learn to be better defenders

I also don't know where are the hate for burke's defense is coming from.

team defense is more important than individual defense.

watching video and learning players tendencies is also good.

corbin was an awful defensive coach so just chill and see what a new coach brings.
 
Gamer13 said:
it is amazing how many people are defeatists.

before the injury kanter wasn't an awful defender.

Jabari is a smart player and smart players can learn to be better defenders

I also don't know where are the hate for burke's defense is coming from.

team defense is more important than individual defense.

watching video and learning players tendencies is also good.

corbin was an awful defensive coach so just chill and see what a new coach brings.
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He could improve, but when it comes down to it, he just flat out does not have the lateral quickness to stay in front of NBA SF's. He got utterly destroyed on the perimeter by COLLEGE wings the few times he ever guarded them.

You can improve a lot of things, but your physical gifts are something you can only do so much about, and one physical gift Parker simply does not have is lateral quickness.

I'd still take him #3, though, and would be thrilled if we got him.
 
yamers said:
harden just doesnt play defense at all.

lmao

parker would fit right in here with the utah jazz where nobody plays defense.
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harden just let aldridge blow by him. dude just doesn't try. not even in the playoffs. lol

and it has nothing to do with lateral quickness either. dude has all the athleticism to be an elite defender. he is just lazy.
 
Gamer13 said:
it is amazing how many people are defeatists.

before the injury kanter wasn't an awful defender.

Jabari is a smart player and smart players can learn to be better defenders

I also don't know where are the hate for burke's defense is coming from.

team defense is more important than individual defense.

watching video and learning players tendencies is also good.

corbin was an awful defensive coach so just chill and see what a new coach brings.
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Still not sure why we automatically assume Parker is a "smart" player. Are smart players that awful on defense, have that poor of shot selection, and have that bad of an A:TO ratio (on a loaded 3pt shooting team too)?

Skilled player with good size, yes.

Smart? The jury is still out.

Also you have to be blind to not realize how bad Kanter has been on defense his first 3 years. Yes, he showed some glimpses of being able to play something that resembles NBA defense at points his sophomore year, but those moments where few.

Burke was just awful on defense too. Didn't do a great job of contesting shots, containing ball handlers, AWFUL at getting around screens, etc.

Corbin might not be a defensive mastermind, or even an average defensive coach, but he wasn't given much to work with defensively besides Favors. Yes, I know team defense is the most important, but I don't know of many coaches who could take a team so young and teach them proper team defense.
 
Mo would immediately be our best on-ball defender. there was actually a Magic win vs OKC this year where he defensed Durant into a 1-7 fourth quarter

Just threw it out there because hes probably a better 3 and D candidate than anything you will find at 23 in the draft, prototype size, great athlete, 38% from 3 this season, turns 21 next month. maybe the Magic would move him to clear a spot for Wiggins.
 
PointGod_AlecBurks said:
Mo would immediately be our best on-ball defender. there was actually a Magic win vs OKC this year where he defensed Durant into a 1-7 fourth quarter

Just threw it out there because hes probably a better 3 and D candidate than anything you will find at 23 in the draft, prototype size, great athlete, 38% from 3 this season, turns 21 next month. maybe the Magic would move him to clear a spot for Wiggins.
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Trevor ariza fits that bill also
 
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