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babe said:
This particular stand on "releasing huge news" is invalid. I don't think Hannity is extreme because his radio program is actually very centrist. Republican, yes, but pretty much moderate to centrist Republican advocacy.

Rhetoric coming from folks who use the "extreme" epithet recklessly to try to marginalize criticism of a "status quo" claimed wholeheartedly by marxist "progressives" is just that. . . rhetoric that is so far removed from the truth that anyone who is actually aware of the facts is gonna reject it.

Someone like a pro-Russian or pro-Chinese socialist. . . . as is the case with Lyndon LaRouche. . . . can believe in big government being the people's government under an ideal schema of giving the folks more technology, better health care, a creative sort of "education" that fosters personal imagination and appreciation of the arts while seeing our corporate fascism as a British oligarchal "empire" sort of thing that needs to be taken down, starting at the top with outright royalty figures like the Queen of England and her consort Prince Philipp. That's "extreme" in comparison to folks who support the big bank bailouts and Dewey socialist "education" consisting of training the lower classes to accept menial jobs and serve the corporate paymasters without questioning their policies. . . . folks who believe "Common Core" is the way the go with nationalized education. . . .

Point is, anybody can be called "extreme". In the above example, I bet you'd find another true socialist, even one with some marxist ideals, "extreme". Wouldn't be the first time different "big thinkers" tried to manage the human herd with different methods ever had a falling out and glared at one another with "extreme" hatred, or used political power to throw one another in jail.

I could draw some examples from your so-called "right-wing" sorts as well, but it wouldn't be as useful in trying to show my point to you, I would suppose.

I am sure most folks with opinions developed in any consistent manner who care to articulate them on the public airways might seem "extreme" to anyone who just doesn't care to understand their views.

Hannity is pretty mild on his comments compared to many, many others, and he is very intent upon supporting mainstream "Republican" sorts of political ideals and personalities. He supported Romney while criticizing Ron Paul, for example.

My point stands because it is factual.
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I agree with this too.

See? I can be a centrist..
 
I long for a post from babe that doesn't include the words "progressive" or "socialist". I do, however, enjoy reading babe defend Hannity in this thread at the expense of every argument he's ever made about people who believe the main steam media. As long as they are saying something that you agree with, it's all good, brother.
 
babe said:
This particular stand on "releasing huge news" is invalid. I don't think Hannity is extreme because his radio program is actually very centrist. Republican, yes, but pretty much moderate to centrist Republican advocacy.

Rhetoric coming from folks who use the "extreme" epithet recklessly to try to marginalize criticism of a "status quo" claimed wholeheartedly by marxist "progressives" is just that. . . rhetoric that is so far removed from the truth that anyone who is actually aware of the facts is gonna reject it.

Someone like a pro-Russian or pro-Chinese socialist. . . . as is the case with Lyndon LaRouche. . . . can believe in big government being the people's government under an ideal schema of giving the folks more technology, better health care, a creative sort of "education" that fosters personal imagination and appreciation of the arts while seeing our corporate fascism as a British oligarchal "empire" sort of thing that needs to be taken down, starting at the top with outright royalty figures like the Queen of England and her consort Prince Philipp. That's "extreme" in comparison to folks who support the big bank bailouts and Dewey socialist "education" consisting of training the lower classes to accept menial jobs and serve the corporate paymasters without questioning their policies. . . . folks who believe "Common Core" is the way the go with nationalized education. . . .

Point is, anybody can be called "extreme". In the above example, I bet you'd find another true socialist, even one with some marxist ideals, "extreme". Wouldn't be the first time different "big thinkers" tried to manage the human herd with different methods ever had a falling out and glared at one another with "extreme" hatred, or used political power to throw one another in jail.

I could draw some examples from your so-called "right-wing" sorts as well, but it wouldn't be as useful in trying to show my point to you, I would suppose.

I am sure most folks with opinions developed in any consistent manner who care to articulate them on the public airways might seem "extreme" to anyone who just doesn't care to understand their views.

Hannity is pretty mild on his comments compared to many, many others, and he is very intent upon supporting mainstream "Republican" sorts of political ideals and personalities. He supported Romney while criticizing Ron Paul, for example.

My point stands because it is factual.
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https://wonkette.com/539816/sean-hannity-leaving-new-york-because-mean-gov-cuomo-doesnt-love-extreme-conservatives-enough

So extreme he takes offense to others talking about right wing extremists. If he takes offense, clearly he considers himself extremist.

So, on a personal level, he claim's he's extreme.

https://thinkprogress.org/politics/2008/09/11/29022/hannity-meltdown/

Has been known to have meltdowns on the air

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KJhqLxeEPE

He's been targeted by Olberman, who at least was the king of the extremist left, and has been known to take aim at extremist right.

https://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2014/02/sean-hannity-headlining-tea-party-event-183722.html

Last but not least, he's headlined Tea Party events.

What about him exactly isn't extremist? What's he gotta do to cross that line? Talk about the next American insurrection? Claim that a year from now is Obama is still in office I'll either be dead or in Jail?
 
Just saw that one of the BLM agents has been identified by name and is special forces and is part of an "A-team". If that is true that is insane.
 
libtards want to call you extremist, just embrace it

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babe said:
Well, we all have our differences. Sometimes Hannity aggravates me with his solid mainstream sort of style. . . . in comparison to, say, Michael Savage or Lyndon LaRouche, for example.

In what I've heard, his stance has sounded like "So why do we need to use the high-powered cops, just send a Sheriff out to do the job". "How come we send a force of 200 out into our desert to deal with one man, when we couldn't send anyone in to help our guys in Bengazi?" His argument just sounds like misplaced emphasis, skewed priorities, and he didn't claim to know the details of the legal case or the history on the ground, just saying it should be handled on a lower profile.

And, oh, BTW. . . . it was Bill Cunningham, "The Great American", who was asking a couple of nights ago about why the ninja soldiers on Bundy's case when we apparently don't care if Al Sharpton owes the government three times as much. . . . .
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This is the large political problem in this country. Everybody has bought into the Sharptons and Hannitys. The people that want you to pick a 'team'. If you're liberal then you damn well better be outraged when a conservative does anything that even borders on dishonest but be prepared to defend the ridiculous when a Democrat does it. Likewise if you chose the other team. Maybe one day we can act like informed citizens instead of cheerleaders.
 
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heyhey said:
This is the large political problem in this country. Everybody has bought into the Sharptons and Hannitys. The people that want you to pick a 'team'. If your liberal then you damn well better be outraged when a conservative does anything that even borders on dishonest but be prepared to defend the ridiculous when a Democrat does it. Likewise if you chose the other team. Maybe one day we can act like informed citizens instead of cheerleaders.
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It ain't our fault there are only 2 legit teams.
 
Is hannity the one that plays bass with the bands at the end of his show? That's pretty cool if the case
 
PearlWatson said:
libtards want to call you extremist, just embrace it

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OMG PearlWatson! I never knew we had so much in common! That's totally right in all aspects! Exactly as I had imagined the founding fathers/Martin Luther King Jr.! Can I sign up for your newsletter? Or perhaps your social media blog? Maybe just follow you on twitter and instagram!
 
ElRoach0 said:
OMG PearlWatson! I never knew we had so much in common! That's totally right in all aspects! Exactly as I had imagined the founding fathers/Martin Luther King Jr.! Can I sign up for your newsletter? Or perhaps your social media blog? Maybe just follow you on twitter and instagram!
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No, but you are invited to my styrofoam bonfire in honor of Earth Day.
 
ElRoach0 said:
https://wonkette.com/539816/sean-hannity-leaving-new-york-because-mean-gov-cuomo-doesnt-love-extreme-conservatives-enough

So extreme he takes offense to others talking about right wing extremists. If he takes offense, clearly he considers himself extremist.

So, on a personal level, he claim's he's extreme.

https://thinkprogress.org/politics/2008/09/11/29022/hannity-meltdown/

Has been known to have meltdowns on the air

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KJhqLxeEPE

He's been targeted by Olberman, who at least was the king of the extremist left, and has been known to take aim at extremist right.

https://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2014/02/sean-hannity-headlining-tea-party-event-183722.html

Last but not least, he's headlined Tea Party events.

What about him exactly isn't extremist? What's he gotta do to cross that line? Talk about the next American insurrection? Claim that a year from now is Obama is still in office I'll either be dead or in Jail?
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So I guess you insist on more amply demonstrating your abuse of the notion "extreme".

Seriously, you consider Thinkprogress and Wonkette are everyday American mainstream folks.

Two totally left-over political hack/agenda pusher sites? Seriously, that's what the everyday housewife is talking about?

Let's see if you can understand this diagram:

If you gave every American one data point, a composite net sum of impressions/prejudices/ideals/wishes connected somehow to a political spectrum of any kind, and you plotted a map of where every person fits in that picture, most people would be "extremists" according to you. Hannity has millions of folks who enjoy his product and make room to listen to him sometimes.

Hannity, in my view, is a jocular sociable, lovable puppy dog wagging his tail and excited about traditional notions, held by huge numbers of Americans. He is not exactly "smart" in my book, and he is too dedicated to the Republican party to suit my taste generally, but I know a lot of people who like him.

The people who like Thinkprogress or Wonkette might all be in New York or California for all I know. You, OB, Kicky,some others would be viewed as "extremists" in rural Utah, maybe Kentucky too.

The word "extremist" has limited descriptive value because it principally is itself a point of view, and not a fact. It practically means you think something is not acceptable in polite society, which in effect means it is a word used to marginalize "others", and is a sort of prejudice/hatred sort of slur. Is that the kind of person you really want to be?

The problem with marxist rhetoric historically has been that the labels have been used to round up whole demographics of the population and either just shoot them on the spot, ship them to gulag camps, or take over their farms. That's why marxists today love to call themselves "progressives" instead.

You have fundamental issues with human rights when you use that kind of language and cannot instead bring it down to the objective differences in opinions and discuss why others believe as they do, showing some respect for them, even though your point may be to show that those beliefs are not sound in some regard.
 
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