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I'm just not seeing thing potential or the Spurs type potential with this team that other jazz fans see, actually it seems that only jazz fans see that while non jazz fans see Atlanta at best ( not bad enough for lotto but not good enough to get past the second round). We have some good players but no lock potential all star. Even with a good coach we are a 6 or lower seed in a couple years. I know some fans won't be able to see it but the realistic fan will see what the jazz really are now and potential in the future. To be a contender you either need two super stars or three all star caliber players, we have neither.

Trey has potential to be pretty good but I think people forget what other point guards are in the west that are all stars and he ones who are just below the cut like a Lawson, Conley, etc.
 
Doublea said:
So what should we define as a contender? Because Houston was a contender, but they lost in the first round. And we all know everybody was complaining here of losing in the first round. So I just want an exciting team that gets respect.
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Whoever thought Houston was ever a contender didn't watch basketball this year
 
misread thread title as "Official Prayer workouts for Utah Jazz"

guess that's what happens when listening to the radio and the news is about a Supreme Court decision.

But then again, prayers couldn't hurt!!!
 
Stanford99 said:
Trey has potential to be pretty good but I think people forget what other point guards are in the west that are all stars and he ones who are just below the cut like a Lawson, Conley, etc.
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Based on what?
Trey hit a couple of fourth-quarter shots and suddenly everyone gets weak in the knees? Other than those shots, he had a ^&%$# year shooting-wise. OK, you can say PG's generally struggle in their rookie seasons. But the fact remains that Trey is a small PG who lacks speed. He ain't gonna grow during the summer, nor will he get much faster. Yes, he'll get better. But he'll always have considerable limitations. Trey can become "crafty" but he'll never be great. He just doesn't have the size and strength to outmuscle or post-up other PG's, nor the speed to blow by them. My hope is he becomes a top-15 PG in the league, maybe even in the discussion as 10th or so. But he'll not get beyond that.

As for team potential, I agree the Jazz don't have any superstars. But I disagree that we don't have potential all-stars - Hayward, for one. He was misused this season; take away running the offense so much and his shooting will recover. There's a reason he gets invited to the national team camps. Burks can be unbelievable if unleashed. Kanter and Favors are making progress. And add in our pick wherever it falls. Maybe I'm wrong and a new coach will make zero difference. But I don't think so.

I think the Jazz will have a pretty decent 7-man rotation just with their current five plus two first-round picks. Add 1-2 FA's and Gobert...that's not a bad group. Probably too young to make the playoffs next season in a tough WC. I'm projecting about 40 wins. But in two years, I see them making the playoffs, then pushing for home court after that.
 
Core4 said:
Based on what?
Trey hit a couple of fourth-quarter shots and suddenly everyone gets weak in the knees? Other than those shots, he had a ^&%$# year shooting-wise. OK, you can say PG's generally struggle in their rookie seasons. But the fact remains that Trey is a small PG who lacks speed. He ain't gonna grow during the summer, nor will he get much faster. Yes, he'll get better. But he'll always have considerable limitations. Trey can become "crafty" but he'll never be great. He just doesn't have the size and strength to outmuscle or post-up other PG's, nor the speed to blow by them. My hope is he becomes a top-15 PG in the league, maybe even in the discussion as 10th or so. But he'll not get beyond that.

As for team potential, I agree the Jazz don't have any superstars. But I disagree that we don't have potential all-stars - Hayward, for one. He was misused this season; take away running the offense so much and his shooting will recover. There's a reason he gets invited to the national team camps. Burks can be unbelievable if unleashed. Kanter and Favors are making progress. And add in our pick wherever it falls. Maybe I'm wrong and a new coach will make zero difference. But I don't think so.

I think the Jazz will have a pretty decent 7-man rotation just with their current five plus two first-round picks. Add 1-2 FA's and Gobert...that's not a bad group. Probably too young to make the playoffs next season in a tough WC. I'm projecting about 40 wins. But in two years, I see them making the playoffs, then pushing for home court after that.
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Did you read what I said? You're argument reads like I said Trey was going to become a AllStar instead of what I said which was " a pretty good point guard"
 
Sorry but Hayward is only a AllStar in our "jazz fans" minds. Allstars don't miss the game because they are misused. He's a third option at best on a good team. We've seen what he can do as a number one option on a bad team
 
Core4 said:
Based on what?
Trey hit a couple of fourth-quarter shots and suddenly everyone gets weak in the knees? Other than those shots, he had a ^&%$# year shooting-wise. OK, you can say PG's generally struggle in their rookie seasons. But the fact remains that Trey is a small PG who lacks speed. He ain't gonna grow during the summer, nor will he get much faster. Yes, he'll get better. But he'll always have considerable limitations. Trey can become "crafty" but he'll never be great. He just doesn't have the size and strength to outmuscle or post-up other PG's, nor the speed to blow by them. My hope is he becomes a top-15 PG in the league, maybe even in the discussion as 10th or so. But he'll not get beyond that.
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Throw it down!

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Stanford99 said:
Sorry but Hayward is only a AllStar in our "jazz fans" minds. Allstars don't miss the game because they are misused. He's a third option at best on a good team. We've seen what he can do as a number one option on a bad team
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New guy gets it.
 
Jazz4ever said:
I'm hoping Parker and Exum do the athletic tests, but got a hunch their agent tells them not to since they are locked in to the top 4/5. If Exum neglects to do these I will be 100% against drafting him.
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That's one of the few things they will do. Lotto picks do the athletic tests, they just don't do any of he drills for he most part. Lillard was one of the few who did everything
 
Exum is the only international prospect that will be in attendance. Nba needs to fix that. Saric says he is better than Parker and Wiggins, the teams should at least be able to measure him to compare.
 
mellow said:
Exum is the only international prospect that will be in attendance. Nba needs to fix that. Saric says he is better than Parker and Wiggins, the teams should at least be able to measure him to compare.
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Maybe doing the combine outside of European playoffs would be a start...
 
mellow said:
Exum is the only international prospect that will be in attendance. Nba needs to fix that. Saric says he is better than Parker and Wiggins, the teams should at least be able to measure him to compare.
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I've never seen Saric, but based on his production at age 20 playing at a high level in Europe, I wouldn't be surprised at all if he's better than Parker and Wiggins.

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seattlejazzfan said:
I've never seen Saric, but based on his production at age 20 playing at a high level in Europe, I wouldn't be surprised at all if he's better than Parker and Wiggins.

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I wouldn't be surprised either-- but of course, we're dealing with ceilings here as well.
 
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