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***Official new head coach search thread*** (merged)

Get PKM on the line, quick!

Calipari apparently asked by a Cleveland reporter if he'd be interested in coaching LeBron. Cal said he'd jump at the chance.

LeBron opts out; he and Cal go to Cavs. Git 'er done!
 
Stockton is not a gamble.

Watching KD and Westbrook chuck up early in the shotclock 3's from 30 feet the other night you wonder "what are they thinking". I don't remember ever watching stockton and thinking to myself "that was a poor decision". SRS Stockton was the goat of reading the floor. Does anybody think that the perspective of the sideline would make that harder for him?

To the "the game has changed" crowd. Yes the game has changed but it has also very much remained the same. Have you not been watching the Spurs these last few years?
 
framer said:
We just went through a two and a half page tangent about editing the word "spork." I vote we let this slide. . .
There is no way that DL has not already talked to Messina, just no way. Messina has already quit his job for next year. Also, I don't think somebody like Messina cares if we have the number 3 pick or number 5. Likely any of those players aren't going to be world beaters for a couple of years at least. I would suspect he would be more interested in the budget to bring "his type" of players in to fill roles. Jazz have cap room and young tradable assets, Lakers do not. He can mold the Jazz roster, Lakers kind of have to roll with what they have. I really suspect that Messina has no interest whatsoever in Tanking, which is probably why we left Ty on board for one more year and let Horney go. I have to believe that the Messina thing wasn't just something cooked up a few weeks ago, and has probably been the plan for almost as long as DL has been here. Of course that would look kind of ugly in certain circles, which is why we have been thrown the "Boylen" fiction, which doesn't really hurt Boylen at all. Without the Jazz, Boylen would have been shut out of any coaching vacancy talks, now at least he is "out there." It's going to be Messina, folks. . .
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You have no idea how right I hope that you are...
 
heyhey said:
Stockton is not a gamble.

Watching KD and Westbrook chuck up early in the shotclock 3's from 30 feet the other night you wonder "what are they thinking". I don't remember ever watching stockton and thinking to myself "that was a poor decision". SRS Stockton was the goat of reading the floor. Does anybody think that the perspective of the sideline would make that harder for him?

To the "the game has changed" crowd. Yes the game has changed but it has also very much remained the same. Have you not been watching the Spurs these last few years?
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I agree - but only to the extent that he has a decent crew of SOLID nba assistants helping him run drills and stuff in practice.


My only concern with stockton is whether he is vocal enough or savvy enough (Kidd is both and he seems to be doing a good job in NY).
 
Randy Rigby...

It's up to Jerry if he wants to try coaching again.

Randy will neither confirm nor deny Adrien Griffith or John Stockton rumors.

Jazz are in the phase of asking permissions and interviewing candidates.

Won't confirm or deny 20 candidates.

Jazz won't give coach the role of president, like SVG. They are telling candidates that he must fit within existing Jazz organization.

Jazz will be respectful of coaches style, but his style needs to fit with the jazz goals and the direction the league is going.
 
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Spurs are leading the change

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To the "the game has changed" crowd. Yes the game has changed but it has also very much remained the same. Have you not been watching the Spurs these last few years?
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The Spurs are on the cutting edge of analytics. They are leading the change, my friend. They are not managing/ coaching by the old rules of instinct/ gut/ experience. They are playing the numbers in personnel, strategy and tactics.
 
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heyhey said:
Stockton is not a gamble.
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First, any choice is a gamble. If you think Stockton is a "sure thing" you are certainly overconfident in your ability to predict the future.

Second, read the last few chapters of Stockton's book and see if you change your opinion. He admits to his inability to lead the young players on the team as it fragmented in his last few years. It was a very honest, authentic and grounded self-reflection which rang true to me. He did a lot of reflecting on the "good old days" of the NBA. Stockton would be miserable not being able to get out of the spotlight. He is very introverted and would not be sustainably fulfilled as an NBA coach. And he knows it, so I doubt very much if he would consider an NBA HC job. I see him as an assistant or as a college HC (If Gonzaga's coach were younger, he could be stepping in).
 
Kerr going to GS is becoming official now....



I truly hope that becomes a failed experiment seeing as we're holding their future draft pick.
 
2017 season is when we need the Curry ankle injury, that class is gonna be better than this one.

I wonder what the Knicks are gonna do now...
 
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Kerr really milked that out, kind of a douche move too.
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Not really. He had two employers who wanted his service. Why not set up a bidding war? All of us would do the same thing. He likely got more money guaranteed from GS. I'll bet it took a lot to say no to his best buddy, Phil. Wonder if this puts an end to their dinners together.
 
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The Spurs are not on the cutting edge of analytics. They are leading the change, my friend. They are not managing/ coaching by the old rules of instinct/ gut/ experience. They are playing the numbers in personnel, strategy and tactics.
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IS there an assumption that john would not use analytics? That he wouldn't have a qualified staff of assistants crunching numbers? I don't think anyone that we brought on would get away with not embracing analytics under DL. This is not what I was referring to anyway. I was referring to a style of play that is often berated as old fashioned when it is not. example: The pick and roll has become more important in the NBA.(largely because the numbers prove what many have known all along)

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First, any choice is a gamble. If you think Stockton is a "sure thing" you are certainly overconfident in your ability to predict the future.

Second, read the last few chapters of Stockton's book and see if you change your opinion. He admits to his inability to lead the young players on the team as it fragmented in his last few years. It was a very honest, authentic and grounded self-reflection which rang true to me. He did a lot of reflecting on the "good old days" of the NBA. Stockton would be miserable not being able to get out of the spotlight. He is very introverted and would not be sustainably fulfilled as an NBA coach. And he knows it, so I doubt very much if he would consider an NBA HC job. I see him as an assistant or as a college HC (If Gonzaga's coach were younger, he could be stepping in).
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First I never said "sure thing". The comment was made that stock was a gamble. The implication being that other choices are not. I did not think it was necessary to say, Stockton is not a bigger gamble than other head coaching candidates. I hope that clarifies for you my position.

Second the idea that he would be "miserable" is over blown imo. We are talking about a guy that was on the ****ing dream team. I'm sure that being the HC of the Jazz would not even compare. Like I said earlier I think the question is would he like to coach not would he be a good one.
 
silesian said:
A little slower, please ..... I purty stupid compeared to you
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Now that that is established...my point is that john wouldn't drive the team into the ground. If he wasn't successful, out of sheer loyalty to the millers, he wouldn't continue to coach. You wouldn't have to fire him. Play with semantics all you want, but he wouldn't continue to coach if he sucked at it.
Would he take another job within the organization? Well, if one was offered to him, and if he felt he could help the organization in that role, then sure...he might do that.
But....that is a bit of a hypothetical from the original thought.
 
Like Stockton but don't see him wanting a NBA HC job.
He has lived in Spokane ever since he retired and done very little NBA related activity.
The Jazz job offer if legit could be merely a courtesy offer.
A gesture of deep respect for what he has meant to Jazz.
He has everything to lose if he fails.
He just does not seem like a risk taker.
 
Core4 said:
Not really. He had two employers who wanted his service. Why not set up a bidding war? All of us would do the same thing. He likely got more money guaranteed from GS. I'll bet it took a lot to say no to his best buddy, Phil. Wonder if this puts an end to their dinners together.
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Well I mainly mean that it was said that they were close to coming to agreement and then Kerr just was like nope I'm the warriors coach now.
 
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