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Rumors are that Cleveland in now focusing in on Embiid. The more I look at this there really is potential for Smart or even Vonleh to push one of the coveted 4 to us. Its a longshot, but there are some stupid GMs picking ahead of us.
 
Vermin said:
Rumors are that Cleveland in now focusing in on Embiid. The more I look at this there really is potential for Smart or even Vonleh to push one of the coveted 4 to us. Its a longshot, but there are some stupid GMs picking ahead of us.
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It could happen. But we need to be optimistic about where we stand even if one of them doesn't fall. We get our first choice of Smart, Gordon, Vonleh, and Randle. Have we ever had a pick where our options were this good?
 
spycam1 said:
It could happen. But we need to be optimistic about where we stand even if one of them doesn't fall. We get our first choice of Smart, Gordon, Vonleh, and Randle. Have we ever had a pick where our options were this good?
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something else people haven't talked about enough is that coin flip we won. We'd be picking 6th now if it wasn't for that flip


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I'll be honest. It's a huge mystery to me who we are going to pick. I would love Wiggins or Parker, but 3-8 is a crapshoot. It's so hard to predict who we will pick or should pick.

Then there is that possibility that someone shakes it up in the top3.

This is going to be a long month. I wish the draft was tomorrow.
 
spycam1 said:
It could happen. But we need to be optimistic about where we stand even if one of them doesn't fall. We get our first choice of Smart, Gordon, Vonleh, and Randle. Have we ever had a pick where our options were this good?
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Negative is though that if this year's first rounder and the core 5 don't develop into 2 potential all stars, you need to ship the whole roster away against younger assets in 3 years.
And then you face the big question: Do the Millers' do the necessary step to avoid building Denver 2.0
 
Hack said:
I'll be honest. It's a huge mystery to me who we are going to pick. I would love Wiggins or Parker, but 3-8 is a crapshoot. It's so hard to predict who we will pick or should pick.

Then there is that possibility that someone shakes it up in the top3.

This is going to be a long month. I wish the draft was tomorrow.
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Yup. That's why I haven't necessarily pledged to any camp (but I lean towards Gordon and Smart). I really don't know, though.
 
spycam1 said:
It could happen. But we need to be optimistic about where we stand even if one of them doesn't fall. We get our first choice of Smart, Gordon, Vonleh, and Randle. Have we ever had a pick where our options were this good?
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Chris paul is probably better than any of them will be..... but still these are pretty good options.

Im still excited for the jazz future
 
There's the rumors that Parker is out of shape and that's why he didn't show up for the combine. If that is true he won't be in shape in time for his individual workouts. I can see him slipping to 5.

If it goes

Embiid Cavs
Wiggins Bucks
Randle 6ers
Exum Magic
Parker Jazz
 
da ThRONe said:
There's the rumors that Parker is out of shape and that's why he didn't show up for the combine. If that is true he won't be in shape in time for his individual workouts. I can see him slipping to 5.

If it goes

Embiid Cavs
Wiggins Bucks
Randle 6ers
Exum Magic
Parker Jazz
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Nothing wrong with dreaming.
 
Being realistic, our real hope right now should be for Exum to fall to us at #5.

We need either Smart, Vonleh or Randle to jump him on one teams big board.

This could be similar to the 2005 draft where the Jazz liked Deron more than Paul, thus Paul falling right into the Hornets hands. We need to hope that Orlando likes Smart more than Exum at #4 leaving Exum to fall into our hands.

Or something like mentioned above where Randle goes to the 76ers over Embiid and Exum then Magic take Embiid/Exum and we get whoever falls out of the two.
 
da ThRONe said:
There's the rumors that Parker is out of shape and that's why he didn't show up for the combine. If that is true he won't be in shape in time for his individual workouts. I can see him slipping to 5.

If it goes

Embiid Cavs
Wiggins Bucks
Randle 6ers
Exum Magic
Parker Jazz
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i could see this happening
 
spycam1 said:
I'm way excited. I think our options at #5 still have a ton of upside.
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Me too.

And i think that kanter burks and burke still have alot of room to improve (they are nowhere near thier ceilings imo). Favors and hayward should each get a little better too.

Add in gobert, neto, cap space, pick 23, and a new coach. Future still looking good
 
spycam1 said:
Nothing wrong with dreaming.
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Although this is largely predicated on the idea of Parker being out of shape I can see Randle jumping ahead of Parker. His measurements worked largely in his favor and even though I don't care for the athletic testing part of the combine Randle did well there as well. I think much like Davis of UK two years ago Randle didn't really display his full skill set. If he goes to work out for the Sixers and has consistent range on his jumper(which I've heard he does) and some improvement finishing with the right hand I could see Hinkie taking Randle over Parker out right. I feel Randle can guard 4's in this league on a nightly basis. Can Parker guard most 3's what about guarding 4's? So while I certainly wouldn't consider it likely I don't think it's a long shot either.
 
Draft Exum if he falls. Then Gordon. If we trade down in a good trade I would be happy with Saric as well.
 
Exum falling is a pipe-dream. Orlando's much more likely to select him at 4 then they were at 3.

Cavs - Wiggins
Bucks- Parker
76ers- Embiid
Magic- Exum

is how its goin down
 
Am I the only one that would be pretty happy with Smart at 5? Could likely guard 3 positions. Will be able to guard 1 and 2 very well. Needs to work on his shot but he will be able to get to the rim, will create a ton of turnovers, rebounds very will for his position. Kind of reminds me of Lance Stephenson albeit a little less crazy hopefully.
 
Obviously picking earlier is better, but can someone show me evidence that a real dropoff occurs after the four most hyped prospects?

One of the most fascinating things about the draft is the phenomenon by which tiers start to develop in the minds of the fans, media, and probably even some team execs. Pretty much the only reason the fourth pick is so vastly more valuable than the fifth pick is because people keep saying it is.

Smart teams understand how this idiotic narrative drives the value of picks. I don't blame Dennis Lindsey for saying how ecstatic he is about the fifth pick. We should all be telling that story. The more everyone joins in on the 'fifth pick in a four-player draft' pity party actually just makes the the pick worse. It's the ammo other teams are going to use when they make lowball offers for it. It's the star treatment our rookie is not going to get when he steps on the court for the first time.

I appreciate everyone on this forum that admits they don't know with 100% certainty which prospects are a tier above others.

I'm depressed about yesterday, and I'm still trying to parse out how much of this disappointment comes from missing out on a clearly superior player or just a more hyped player. I don't know.
 
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