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[One Brow]

Changing the legal morality of a subject will change the morality of the society. One automatically leads to the other

This current convo isn't about defending gay marriage or traditional marriage. I was just giving examples of how it affects society. It doesn't need a "defense". Lawsuits against small businesses are an example of it affecting Mr. Public in a personal way.

A change in the law doesn't create lawsuits; discrimination would create lawsuits. If you are saying the change in the law doesn't allow people to discriminate anymore, I'll grant that one as well.

I'm not sure what "legal morality" is supposed to be. We often, but not always, base laws on we think is moral; but we also make laws based on other considerations than morality and do not enact laws to enforce many parts of many people's morality. Making interracial marriage legal did not change its moral status for bigots; making gay marriage illegal will not change its moral status for bigots.

 

[Stoked]

A change in the law doesn't create lawsuits; discrimination would create lawsuits. If you are saying the change in the law doesn't allow people to discriminate anymore, I'll grant that one as well.

I'm not sure what "legal morality" is supposed to be. We often, but not always, base laws on we think is moral; but we also make laws based on other considerations than morality and do not enact laws to enforce many parts of many people's morality. Making interracial marriage legal did not change its moral status for bigots; making gay marriage illegal will not change its moral status for bigots.

It absolutely can. But that wasn't the issue. Either way it lead to an affect on society.

So you think that gay marriage being legal will not change the general concept of morals in America (or anywhere else it is passed)? That surprises me.

But all I was doing is pointing out ways that it will affect "Mr. Public". That is something you have already agreed with. Thanks for acknowledging it.

 

[DutchJazzer]

You can name a link between obesity of others and your pocketbook. What's the link for gay marriage?

again read back a few pages.

i just have the opinion that it devalues, procreation. so when society starts to take procreation less likey it affects the whole ociety.
for example mtv teen moms, the more teen moms
the worse society is off.


so by saying mariage is for love and not for procreation, the view on procreation chances.


and yeah when somehting effects societie it effects everybody.

 

[Stoked]

again read back a few pages.

i just have the opinion that it devalues, procreation. so when society starts to take procreation less likey it affects the whole ociety.
for example mtv teen moms, the more teen moms
the worse society is off.


so by saying mariage is for love and not for procreation, the view on procreation chances.


and yeah when somehting effects societie it effects everybody.

The reason for marriage changes from couple to couple. In mine it is for love. Procreation is something that is just a perk of my marriage but not the reason I am married.

 

[PearlWatson]

You are on my ignore list. Just everyonce in a while I check what y'all say jsut in case it is actually worth reading. That way reading your mind numbing drivel is up to me.

Cheers!

A fence sitter would never do such a thing.

 

[VINYLONE]

It absolutely can. But that wasn't the issue. Either way it lead to an affect on society.

So you think that gay marriage being legal will not change the general concept of morals in America (or anywhere else it is passed)? That surprises me.

Question. Do you think interracial marriages changed the general concept of morals in America? And if yes, how so?

 

[Stoked]

Question. Do you think interracial marriages changed the general concept of morals in America? And if yes, how so?

Yes I do.

In the past it was widely viewed as indecent/unacceptable to marry outside your own race. (I still see a little of this along with with marrying outside your religion and political affiliation) Now seeing interacial couples is generally socially acceptable. I feel that has a general affect on the overall morals of a society. Viewing all people as equals is a moral issue to me (as well as a racial one). I am using a very similar term for morals and social issues here.

Keep in mind that I never indicated that a change in moral is always bad thing. It can be bad or good depending on the change.