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More Chad Ford Speculation: #5 and Favors for #2 and Sanders

A head case who was arrested for a bar fight in which he tore a ligament in his thumb and was also seen throwing bottles into a crowd. A guy who fights with his teammates and who's productivity has gone down drastically since he signed that big contract...

Why would playing in Utah change Sanders' behavior or productivity? I'm sorry but this guy is toxic.
 
Thee jazz fan said:
Your too dumb for Vermin to wast neg on CF when there's a perfectly good idiot like you who needs it so bad.
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Judas. That was a satisfying neg.

Twin Towers said:
You don't bring in Spurs culture then bring in a guy like Sanders. Who is selfish and undisciplined. He is not what DL and Quin are looking for. And I am not talking about the weed. That doesn't matter. Its his selfish undisciplined play. DL and Snyder want nothing to do with him.
They like Favors a lot. And Favors has a lot more potential right now offensively and defensively. Sanders Will always be a 10 and 10 guy with a few blocks.
Favors has potential to be much more. And favors is unselfish.
You can dream all you want about getting into the top 3 but its not going to happen with trading Favors.
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So, um, when are people going to realize that this isn't about Sanders? Who gives a flying bag of dicks about what Sanders does on/off the court. If he's a cancer, we ship his *** out, easy as that. This is about moving up and getting a future star, while unloading one of the most overrated players to ever put a Jazz uniform on (Chucker J. Smiles takes that prize, natch).
 
Twin Towers said:
You don't bring in Spurs culture then bring in a guy like Sanders. Who is selfish and undisciplined. He is not what DL and Quin are looking for. And I am not talking about the weed. That doesn't matter. Its his selfish undisciplined play. DL and Snyder want nothing to do with him.
They like Favors a lot. And Favors has a lot more potential right now offensively and defensively. Sanders Will always be a 10 and 10 guy with a few blocks.
Favors has potential to be much more. And favors is unselfish.
You can dream all you want about getting into the top 3 but its not going to happen with trading Favors.
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But.....like.....Stephen Jackson.....
 
Exum fits in the Bucks lineup, more than Wiggins or Embiid. If he falls to 5, this trade has potential although trading Favors for Sanders wouldnt be enough to get Wiggins for Exum.

But yeah, do this deal even with throwing in next year's 1st. Top 10 protected.
 
E.J. Wells said:
Judas. That was a satisfying neg.



So, um, when are people going to realize that this isn't about Sanders? Who gives a flying bag of dicks about what Sanders does on/off the court. If he's a cancer, we ship his *** out, easy as that. This is about moving up and getting a future star, while unloading one of the most overrated players to ever put a Jazz uniform on (Chucker J. Smiles takes that prize, natch).
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So your trading Favors away for Sanders who we all realize who sucks and the 5th pick in the draft for the chance at players who are NOT for sure stars.
When are people going to realize Wiggins and Parker are NOT for sure STARS. They are good players but highly overrated. Nobody in this draft is a FOR SURE franchise changer.
They have major holes in their game. They are not NBA ready. I like both of them. Don't get me wrong. But its BS to say these guys are for sure stars or franchise changers.
Most guys who come into the league have more complete games. The drafts have just sucked so bad for years that everyone is over hyping this one.
Favors & 5th pick >>>>> Wiggins/Parker & Sanders
 
I wish we had just been a little worse this year... we have to sacrifice favors to move up a few spots... and its still not enough. I would do the deal, but I would be pissed about it.
 
Twin Towers said:
So your trading Favors away for Sanders who we all realize who sucks and the 5th pick in the draft for the chance at players who are NOT for sure stars.
When are people going to realize Wiggins and Parker are NOT for sure STARS. They are good players but highly overrated. Nobody in this draft is a FOR SURE franchise changer.
They have major holes in their game. They are not NBA ready. I like both of them. Don't get me wrong. But its BS to say these guys are for sure stars or franchise changers.
Most guys who come into the league have more complete games. The drafts have just sucked so bad for years that everyone is over hyping this one.
Favors & 5th pick >>>>> Wiggins/Parker & Sanders
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So you're totally fine to keep Favors, who has had three years to learn, grow, assert himself, and start dominating, but hasn't. You're fine with the fact that Favors is looking more and more like a C.J. Miles type of player than an all star. You're totally cool with mediocrity.

Well then, I guess you told me. Status Quo > Gambling On Future
 
E.J. Wells said:
So you're totally fine to keep Favors, who has had three years to learn, grow, assert himself, and start dominating, but hasn't. You're fine with the fact that Favors is looking more and more like a C.J. Miles type of player than an all star. You're totally cool with mediocrity.

Well then, I guess you told me. Status Quo > Gambling On Future
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Draft a player who sucks. Dont sell out. Don't let the world tell us who we should draft.

#DraftOnOurTerms
 
E.J. Wells said:
So you're totally fine to keep Favors, who has had three years to learn, grow, assert himself, and start dominating, but hasn't. You're fine with the fact that Favors is looking more and more like a C.J. Miles type of player than an all star. You're totally cool with mediocrity.

Well then, I guess you told me. Status Quo > Gambling On Future
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Favors averaged 13 and 9 last year while never running plays for him.
Per 36 he would average 15 and 10 with 1.8 blocks.

Corbins pathetic offense where we revolve around our wing players the whole game. And bring Favors OUT of the paint. And he still shot over 50%.

The guy is only 23 years old.

Your comparing him to CJ MILES? Dude come on. The guys is already a solid Center. The development can be much more. He is already worth his contract.
Sanders is not.

Wiggins can't even create his own shot yet consistently.

Parker is one of the worst defenders on the draft and is very overweight and he could barely get passed his man in college. How do you think he will do in the pro's???

The guys are good players. I like them. but these are holes in players games that have turned college stars into basic role players in the past.

I am hoping Wiggins can learn to dribble through traffic and create his shot.
I am hoping Parker can learn to defend and not play boozer defense.
I am hoping Parker can lose weight and become quicker and get passed his man.
I am hoping both learn to become playmakers.

I am not sold on anyone in this draft. The past 4 years have been so horrible in the draft that everyone is seeing the contrast and over valuing the top 3 in this draft.
 
Twin Towers said:
So your trading Favors away for Sanders who we all realize who sucks and the 5th pick in the draft for the chance at players who are NOT for sure stars.
When are people going to realize Wiggins and Parker are NOT for sure STARS. They are good players but highly overrated. Nobody in this draft is a FOR SURE franchise changer.
They have major holes in their game. They are not NBA ready. I like both of them. Don't get me wrong. But its BS to say these guys are for sure stars or franchise changers.
Most guys who come into the league have more complete games. The drafts have just sucked so bad for years that everyone is over hyping this one.
Favors & 5th pick >>>>> Wiggins/Parker & Sanders
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Expect more of these one and done unpolished prospects at the top of future drafts as well.

As much as I like Favors, I don't think he's a starter on a championship team as much as Wiggins.
 
Sanders is a headcase as is known.
He displayed some promise in his contract year but regressed this season.
that said, defensively he might be an impact player, which Favors can also be but has almost never managed to be!
Sanders did that during his contract hunt.
If one could reboot that kid, he is an awesome shotblocker, awesome!
 
Favors is the safe player. Sanders is the wild card. If Sanders could mellow out and Wiggins realize his potential, the Lindsey would absolutely own the Bucks with that trade.
 
I sincerely doubt Favors is part of any package to move up.

For all the criticism he gets, people forget he's still just 22. He'll be 16 and 10 and a prominent defensive presence for the next decade. Not to mention a total chiller who really likes Salt Lake City. He's a cornerstone guy for the team.
 
E.J. Wells said:
Judas. That was a satisfying neg.



So, um, when are people going to realize that this isn't about Sanders? Who gives a flying bag of dicks about what Sanders does on/off the court. If he's a cancer, we ship his *** out, easy as that. This is about moving up and getting a future star, while unloading one of the most overrated players to ever put a Jazz uniform on (Chucker J. Smiles takes that prize, natch).
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nailed it
 
People actually want to do this trade? jesus christ

Sanders is the black Ostertag

and you want to give away Favors just to get Parker aka Rudy Gay 2.0?

Clueless
 
no not favors. sanders over favors?? u kidding me? This year will be his year. His offense has improved A LOT last year. This year he will dominate.
 
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