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I'm starting to wonder if Embiid will ever be healthy.

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That's what he wants you to think.
 
Chicago doesn't need to do that trade. They can amnesty Carlos.
DL should step in and grab the extra picks. However, he's stated the scouting staff needs to justify using the 23rd and 35th on players, so he may not want additional assets this season. If I were Dennis, I'd definitely try to get one of those picks. Cash and the 35th might be enough to do it since the 35th is pretty high, but still not guaranteed. It would be make a lot of sense for Chicago.
Chicago is cheap. They'd rather trade Boozer.

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What ****ty luck and timing for Embiid... wow

Wiggins to me, has looked like the #1 pick in this draft for years now. I've never moved him from that spot throughout the process and now its even more likely he goes 1st.

Last month bettingshark,com had the odds of going 1st overall as;

Wiggins 2/3
Embiid 8/5
Parker 5/1
The Field 15/1

If anyone can find some updated June odds, I've got rep for ya.
 
This idea doesn't get enough burn in this thread. As far as getting great return on the asset, this option could end up a home-run.

I'd Target 2017 personally, with the GSW pick already there it gives the jazz a comfortable plan Z, to blow this team up if it isn't working by then.

though it could be a good idea to target 2016, as potential 2017 draftees are likely and rumored to be moving up a class.

Probable 2016 lottery pick, Jaylen Brown is exactly the type of player the Jazz could use.

With Chicago and Phoenix shopping their picks, the market might be soft. The future first could have lottery protection on it for a few years. Chicago and Phoenix have better picks to offer.
 
My final Draft Tiers and Ratings

Tier 1

Wiggins 99
Embiid 98
Parker 97
Vonleh 97
Exum 97

Teir 2

Julius Randle 95
Doug McDermott 94
Marcus Smart 92
Aaron Gordon 92
Jusuf Nurkic 91
Rodney Hood 91
Zach LaVine 90
Nik Stauskas 90
Dario Saric 90

Teir 3

Adriean Payne 89
TJ Warren 89
Tyler Ennis 89
Elfrid Payton 89
James Young 88

Teir 4

PJ Hairston 86
Bogdan Bogdanovic 86
Clint Capela 86
Jordan Clarkson 86
Shabazz Napier 85
Kyle Anderson 85
Walter Tavares 85
Cleanthony Early 85
KJ McDaniels 84
Jerami Grant 84
Jarnell Stokes 84

Tier 5

Spencer Dinwiddie 84
Damien Inglis 82
Vasilije Micic 82
Glenn Robinson III 82
Mitch McGary 81
CJ Wilcox 81
Jordan Adams 81
Artem Klimenko 80
Thanasis Antetokounmpo 78
Nikola Jokic 77
Semaj Christon 76
Deonte Burton 76
Jahii Carson 76
Markel Brown 73
DeAndre Daniels 73
Josh Huestis 73
Jabari Brown 71
Ioannis Papapetrou 70

So Alex Len is on the same level as Parker, Exum and Vonleh?

Interesting.
 
Question with Embiid is:

Is this a huge smokescreen out of Cleveland to overexaggerate the injury and bait the Sixers into pairing with the #3 and #10 to move up to #1?
 
Question with Embiid is:

Is this a huge smokescreen out of Cleveland to overexaggerate the injury and bait the Sixers into pairing with the #3 and #10 to move up to #1?

Didn't Embiids agent already confirm the injury? Doubt he's in cahoots with the Cavs GM.


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Didn't Embiids agent already confirm the injury? Doubt he's in cahoots with the Cavs GM.


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He confirmed that he's being checked by doctors again, but didn't comfirm injury or fracture afaik.
Also if Arn Tellem has another client who is projected in the 9-14 range and that client is getting a promise from Cleveland to be taken if they get the #10, then he might cooperate.

I guess it's real that something irregular came up in the medical documents. I don't think that this just was noticed 1 week after Embiid was in Portland. Getting leaked now it seems fishy.
 
He confirmed that he's being checked by doctors again, but didn't comfirm injury or fracture afaik.
Also if Arn Tellem has another client who is projected in the 9-14 range and that client is getting a promise from Cleveland to be taken if they get the #10, then he might cooperate.

I guess it's real that something irregular came up in the medical documents. I don't think that this just was noticed 1 week after Embiid was in Portland. Getting leaked now it seems fishy.

What? This is insane. I'm sorry.

So Embiid okays his agent screwing him out of more money (he gets more money at the #1 than the 3) so he can help cleveland get the 10th pick? What the hell?


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What? This is insane. I'm sorry.

So Embiid okays his agent screwing him out of more money (he gets more money at the #1 than the 3) so he can help cleveland get the 10th pick? What the hell?


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Okay now a stress fracture is confirmed. Still weird timing.
 
Embiid makes >>>>>>>>>>>>> $ in endorsements playing in Boston or LA. than he does in any of the cities that have the top 5 picks.
 
draft comparisons (best case)

wiggins = Scottie Pippen
Parker = glen robinson
embiid = Hakeem Olajuwon
exum = penny hardaway
smart = baron davis
vonleh = Sam Perkins
randle = Zach Randolph
saric = detleph schrempf
Gordon = Shawn Marion
McDermott = Wally sczerbiak
stauskas = klay Thompson

the question who of those who are best to build a franchise around?
 
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I still think it's super weird timing.
Embiid had his physical and workout on the 11th and 12th in Cleveland.

There were conflicting reports about his medical examination back then.

Do foot specialists really need to look at his MRIs and X-Rays for a whole week to find a stress fracture?

I don't know.

Looking over the dx legal representation list, I see Jabari Parker being represented by Arn Tellem.

So Cleveland had incentive to keep quiet until they had gotten Jabari in for a physical and workout.

The reports that they "traded" medical reports of Parker for Embiid's with Milwaukee makes sense.
 
draft comparisons (best case)

wiggins = Paul george
Parker = glen robinson
embiid = Hakeem Olajuwon
exum = penny hardaway
smart = baron davis
vonleh = Sam Perkins
randle = Zach Randolph
saric = detleph schrempf
Gordon = Shawn Marion
McDermott = Wally sczerbiak
stauskas = klay Thompson

the question who of those who are best to build a franchise around?

Copied from ESPN.
 
What? This is insane. I'm sorry.

So Embiid okays his agent screwing him out of more money (he gets more money at the #1 than the 3) so he can help cleveland get the 10th pick? What the hell?


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Agree. Not likely.
And Tellem doesn't have any clients in the 10-14 range.
 
Scheduling the surgery for friday makes sense. Getting a quick prognosis and a successful procedure would save his value.
 
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