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Report: #5, Favors, Burks for Cavs' #1 pick

Yay or Nay?

  • Yay

    Votes: 68 56.7%

  • Nay

    Votes: 52 43.3%
  • Total voters
    120
Core4 said:
Will it be Wiggins or
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lol.
i like jabari but you are killin me with the fat jokes C4
 
As soon as Jabari gets here Big Buddha from Channel 13 can show him all the good places to eat. :rolleyes:
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I think this guy saw all the attention Spence was getting and decided to jump into the fun. I do think they have the parameters of a deal done and it will depend on who is available at 5. I think if Exum or Embiid is available we will have a deal. If it is Vonleh and Gordon I don't think the Cavs will bite.
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That sounds pretty accurate to me. Unfortunately, I think the top-4 players of the draft for most of the process will wind up still being the top-4 picked and the Jazz will just have the 5th pick. I really hope I'm wrong, because otherwise, that game-winner against Orlando is going to haunt this franchise for years.
 
Favors, 5 and 23? Hell ya, we keep burks and get wiggins.

Wet dream bros.

Burks is my favorite player in the nba (sorry steph) and wiggins is by far my favorite playa in college.

I would be one happy jazz fan and would have to try to get season tickets. (It would be difficult due to The Wife)
 
fishonjazz said:
lol.
i like jabari but you are killin me with the fat jokes C4
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In his interview with Locke he said the first thing he'd eat after the draft is a deep dish pizza.... uh oh.
 
fishonjazz said:
lol.
i like jabari but you are killin me with the fat jokes C4
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Can't resist. I'm a little disappointed with my avatar, though. When the pic is small, I think it looks more like a mermaid to me than Jabba. Oh well!
And I have the right to make fat jokes right now because I'm carrying around an extra 20-25 lbs. Got to hit the weights and cardio myself.
 
QuinSnydersHair said:
College Derrick would be but four year, limited offense, passive Derrick, knowing what we know now, would probably go around 7-8 imo. With these rookies, there is a lot of hope that they really develop. Derrick's development, at this point, seems much more limited.

To me, and not that it's hugely different, it's more like offering 5 + 8 + 23 for 1 which is too much imo.

I stand by letting the Cavs take their guy and hoping Embiid falls to 5 where we snag him and try to get the wheels turning on the 3 team trade with the Kings that I fleshed out yesterday.
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Can't really argue this. I wouldn't trade Favors for the 7-8 pick (unless Vonleh is still on the board) but I'd strongly consider moving him for the 6.

I think taking a reset on Vonleh is well worth the risk. He gives you almost four years on Derrick and has a lot more offensive potential to go along with pretty damn similar physical measurements (though VL is not as explosive). This also gives them a sort of a free card on taking on the Embiid risk by still being able to draft that other guy. Bonus: money savings for FA moves or cap dumps with picks.


QuinSnydersHair said:
try to get the wheels turning on the 3 team trade with the Kings that I fleshed out yesterday.
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Link?
 
franklin said:
Can't really argue this. I wouldn't trade Favors for the 7-8 pick (unless Vonleh is still on the board) but I'd strongly consider moving him for the 6.

I think taking a reset on Vonleh is well worth the risk. He gives you almost four years on Derrick and has a lot more offensive potential to go along with pretty damn similar physical measurements (though VL is not as explosive). This also gives them a sort of a free card on taking on the Embiid risk by still being able to draft that other guy. Bonus: money savings for FA moves or cap dumps with picks.
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The other consideration is Favors is a tweener, He even likes to call himself a PF, yet he doesn't have the shooting ability to play outside. Vonleh does.
That would be an interesting scenario if you could draft Vonleh and get Embiid in a trade for Favors. Huge risk, but a potential HUGE upgrade at two positions...IF Embiid recovers. Get it wrong, and it's a potential career-killing move for Lindsey.
 
fishonjazz said:
Favors, 5 and 23? Hell ya, we keep burks and get wiggins.

Wet dream bros.

Burks is my favorite player in the nba (sorry steph) and wiggins is by far my favorite playa in college.

I would be one happy jazz fan and would have to try to get season tickets. (It would be difficult due to The Wife)
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Keep Burks, get AW and throw GoBear into the fire. Season tickets would be very tempting.
 
Core4 said:
The other consideration is Favors is a tweener, He even likes to call himself a PF, yet he doesn't have the shooting ability to play outside. Vonleh does.
That would be an interesting scenario if you could draft Vonleh and get Embiid in a trade for Favors. Huge risk, but a potential HUGE upgrade at two positions...IF Embiid recovers. Get it wrong, and it's a potential career-killing move for Lindsey.
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I don't see the career killing risk at all. You're creating a chance to take a franchise cornerstone, while not inhibiting your ability to draft your "raw potential guy", and also saving the Millers $10,000,000 (next season alone), which comes with a several year option to replace that #5 pick by taking on expirings or facilitating trades, or hitting free agency, and somewhat accelerating the development of Gobert, Favors, and whatever big is drafted with this new pick.

I'm a Favors fan but if I'm Greggy Boy I take that deal in a heartbeat and tell Lindsay to try to talk Melo into going to Sactown and facilitating in exchange for this year's #7.
 
@chadfordinsider

Sources: Cavs were calling around offering teams Orlando's picks at 4 & 12 for players last night. Interesting
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Obvi doesn't specify his source. Were the Cavs just test-running those picks, or do you think they have a spoken agreement with ORL? Or is it all just a smokescreen to get us to up the anty, because they covet and need Favors, but think we can sweeten the pot? Or is it just a lie?

I wish it was tonight already.
 
Saw this earlier. I don't see us moving up. Crazy how undervalued Favors is. I say keep the team intact, draft smart and make our move for a proven all star before the trade deadline and any of our assets start losing value.
 
Vermin said:
Saw this earlier. I don't see us moving up. Crazy how undervalued Favors is. I say keep the team intact, draft smart and make our move for a proven all star before the trade deadline and any of our assets start losing value.
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Undervalued? I do not see it that way at all. He is very valuable. Good player and a defensive anchor. Problem is that he, and no one else on the team, will be that franchise player. Jazz and Cavs see value in him as he is the rumored cornerstone of this trade. To me that indicates he has the most worth.
 
Yeah, Favors is valued. I just think Cavs are nuts. They NEED rim protection, and here they are considering taking on picks 4 and 12 in a 2-3 person top tier draft, and a late blooming wing who put up #'s on a bad team and has likely peaked. I see ORL and Philly as a smokescreen, and us as the real target. They just want us to throw in a future first, or they're keeping their pick. Afflalo and Young got nothing on Favors.
 
Stoked said:
Undervalued? I do not see it that way at all. He is very valuable. Good player and a defensive anchor. Problem is that he, and no one else on the team, will be that franchise player. Jazz and Cavs see value in him as he is the rumored cornerstone of this trade. To me that indicates he has the most worth.
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Yeah. If the Cavs think that Orlando's proposal is better, I believe they are extremely undervaluing Favors. No other way to explain it.
 
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