Bruno Caboclo... the next Giannis?

[Game6Conley]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBy-0MZQpNM

Gotta say at first this pick made me scratch my head and ask 'who?' upon further review he looks like a monster wing prospect, still i have to believe they could have traded down and gotten him...

It's refreshing to see that someone like this could fly under the radar, If Ujiri gets this pick right hes going to look like a genius.

The youngest player in the draft. I saw some nasty blocks in other videos too. Apparently hes going to be playing with the Raptors SL team.

Thoughts?

 

[Game6Conley]

 

[trigg3r]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBy-0MZQpNM

Gotta say at first this pick made me scratch my head and ask 'who?' upon further review he looks like a monster wing prospect, still i have to believe they could have traded down and gotten him...

It's refreshing to see that someone like this could fly under the radar, If Ujiri gets this pick right hes going to look like a genius.

The youngest player in the draft. I saw some nasty blocks in other videos too. Apparently hes going to be playing with the Raptors SL team.

Thoughts?

Throughout the draft Simmons and Rose made snide comments about picks which I found to be pretty dumb. Taking shots at Exum because he doesn't have as much exposure that college players in the draft had or even scoffing at this pick. Maybe(it's likely they do) the Raptors know something they(Simmons and Rose) don't. Maybe this kid isn't 4 years away from having an impact at the NBA level. They act as if the Raptors could have waited and taken this guy later on. We'll never know if they could have. If they had him as the best player on their board at the 20th pick then it is ridiculous to sit there and armchair GM them when they have a lot more information on him than a couple of youtube videos. Simmons and Rose had their douchebaggery on full display tonight IMO at times. If this kid does pan out, I am going to guess there is no mention down the road by either of them pertaining to how wrong they were.

 

[trigg3r]

Bodhi posted this in another thread. If the tweet is accurate, the Jazz were thinking exactly what you were if he fell to them at 23. Which means Simmons and Rose were talking out of their asses about him lasting to the next Raptors pick or trading down.

I guess this can go here:

Ryan Wolstat: Some info from a North American source: Utah and Phoenix were hot after Caboclo, would have taken him if on the board with next picks Twitter @WolstatSun

Interesting. Intl scouts working OT.

 

[Game6Conley]

^^Well that about seals it. ive been reading up and watching vids too.

Im sold, totally

This kid is one of my favorite players from this draft. He figures to be a matchup nightmare.

Theirs no doubt in my mind that this kid is a better project than Clint Capela, Damien Inglis or Walter Tavares.

He looks... Ultra athletic..

7'7" wingspan...

 

[Game6Conley]

@JLew1050

Caboclo is in the US now, working to get his visa. He won't be stashed, will be with the Raptors this coming season

 

[BTP]

Throughout the draft Simmons and Rose made snide comments about picks which I found to be pretty dumb. Taking shots at Exum because he doesn't have as much exposure that college players in the draft had or even scoffing at this pick. Maybe(it's likely they do) the Raptors know something they(Simmons and Rose) don't. Maybe this kid isn't 4 years away from having an impact at the NBA level. They act as if the Raptors could have waited and taken this guy later on. We'll never know if they could have. If they had him as the best player on their board at the 20th pick then it is ridiculous to sit there and armchair GM them when they have a lot more information on him than a couple of youtube videos. Simmons and Rose had their douchebaggery on full display tonight IMO at times. If this kid does pan out, I am going to guess there is no mention down the road by either of them pertaining to how wrong they were.

You realize that Simmons on ESPN is different from Simmons on Grantland.
And well that's catering to the audience if there's a pick being made that none expected. He was not listed by dx, meaning there was a certain secrecy or surprise behind him. They usually have all the internationals listed somewhere.
What are you doing as a host if there's someone you have never heard about? They went with entertaining the viewers.

 

[BTP]

DX ranks Caboclo #18 amongst '95 internationals. Very early commitment to someone from this draft class. Must really like his upside.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Lol at people bitching about Simmons being an "armchair gm". That is what he is paid to do. He doesn't act like he is a scout, he literally says "I watched this guy on youtube and I like him for no apparent reason" or stuff like that. He doesn't go in depth with his analysis, he just gives you his opinion. A lot of people enjoy hearing it, I know I do. Dude is funny. Sometimes being funny makes you comes off as a jerk/dick/***.

 

[fishonjazz]

This dude is 2 years away from being 2 years away. Lololololol

Funniest pick and after pick conversation in the whole draft.

He is alot like durant with his 4.9 pts per game average.

 

[Game6Conley]

Lol at people bitching about Simmons being an "armchair gm". That is what he is paid to do. He doesn't act like he is a scout, he literally says "I watched this guy on youtube and I like him for no apparent reason" or stuff like that. He doesn't go in depth with his analysis, he just gives you his opinion. A lot of people enjoy hearing it, I know I do. Dude is funny. Sometimes being funny makes you comes off as a jerk/dick/***.

The biggest fool from the Caboclo pick was Fran Fraschilla. hands down. It was suspect to hear Jalen Rose say he looks like a good player after seeing i think 2 highlights, with the rest of us. But yeah you cant kill Jalen or Bill for what was said about Bruno, He was way off the radar of most 'experts'

what did Fran say exactly say though? i think it was

"hes 2 years from being 2 years away, and then we'll see" something to that extent. Thats just flat out wrong, Bruno will play for the Raptors next year.

Looking back i think theres reason to believe this trade would have been turned down at 19, and certainly at 20 so i cant kill it.

Knowing what I do now, I would've endorsed trading 23 and 35 for Caboclo. This dude looks like the giant SF many of us were looking for.

 

[BTP]

The biggest fool from the Caboclo pick was Fran Fraschilla. hands down. It was suspect to hear Jalen Rose say he looks like a good player after seeing i think 2 highlights, with the rest of us. But yeah you cant kill Jalen or Bill for what was said about Bruno, He was way off the radar of most 'experts'

what did Fran say exactly say though? i think it was

"hes 2 years from being 2 years away, and then we'll see" something to that extent. Thats just flat out wrong, Bruno will play for the Raptors next year.

Looking back i think theres reason to believe this trade would have been turned down at 19, and certainly at 20 so i cant kill it.

Knowing what I do now, I would've endorsed trading 23 and 35 for Caboclo. This dude looks like the giant SF many of us were looking for.

If the Raps want to be in the playoffs again next year, I doubt we'll see much Caboclo outside the D-League, Summer League and garbage minutes.

 

[Game6Conley]

If the Raps want to be in the playoffs again next year, I doubt we'll see much Caboclo outside the D-League, Summer League and garbage minutes.

Yup for sure, The Raptors are a playoff team so this is almost a luxury pick, but i really dont mind the risk/reward, Caboclo will be the youngest player in the NBA.

 

[Game6Conley]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVk4t-H0XaA#t=30

It looks like PHX would have taken him 22nd if the raptors passed, so i dont think we had a shot at him.

 

[BTP]

Yup for sure, The Raptors are a playoff team so this is almost a luxury pick, but i really dont mind the risk/reward, Caboclo will be the youngest player in the NBA.

If Summer League, D-League, Garbage time and team practices are the best way for him to develop individually, it's a good risk/reward pick at 20.
I personally felt Capela dropped too low as a risk/reward pick.

 

[Duck Rodgers]

This dude is 2 years away from being 2 years away. Lololololol

Funniest pick and after pick conversation in the whole draft.

He is alot like durant with his 4.9 pts per game average.

And 4.9 in the Brazilian league nonetheless. I can't get too excited about picks based on body frames that seem like they should be able to play basketball unless there is production there too.

 

[8]

The biggest fool from the Caboclo pick was Fran Fraschilla. hands down. It was suspect to hear Jalen Rose say he looks like a good player after seeing i think 2 highlights, with the rest of us. But yeah you cant kill Jalen or Bill for what was said about Bruno, He was way off the radar of most 'experts'

what did Fran say exactly say though? i think it was

"hes 2 years from being 2 years away, and then we'll see" something to that extent. Thats just flat out wrong, Bruno will play for the Raptors next year.

Looking back i think theres reason to believe this trade would have been turned down at 19, and certainly at 20 so i cant kill it.

Knowing what I do now, I would've endorsed trading 23 and 35 for Caboclo. This dude looks like the giant SF many of us were looking for.

I think Fran at one point last season said the Wiggins shouldn't come out. He tends to overvalue skills and devalue athleticism.

 

[8]

Yep. Looks like Giannis

 

[trigg3r]

Lol at people bitching about Simmons being an "armchair gm". That is what he is paid to do. He doesn't act like he is a scout, he literally says "I watched this guy on youtube and I like him for no apparent reason" or stuff like that. He doesn't go in depth with his analysis, he just gives you his opinion. A lot of people enjoy hearing it, I know I do. Dude is funny. Sometimes being funny makes you comes off as a jerk/dick/***.

Him and Rose then went on to make snide comments about the pick they agreed they didn't know much about. It's douchey IMO. You can you are surprised they took that guy there because you didn't really follow his play coming up to the draft at all. They did that and it's fine. When Rose makes the point that he would take the latest 2nd rounder over this guy 150% of the time it just looks bad IMO. I get that's what he and Simmons do. I just think it is really dumb. Both will laugh at this pick if this kid busts for years down the road. If the kid succeeds then they probably won't ever mention their initial stance. I hate that about most analysts TBH.

 

[UGLI baby]

I <3 Bill Simmons


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