Israel Commences Ground Invasion into Gaza.
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♪alt13
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Good Point
Australia could accept the whole of Israel and give them the land for their own independent nation. If Australia offered Israel the land for a state should they take it?
DutchJazzer
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as i told u
it was a peace of worhtless land(natural recourses wise)this is all about "holy city/land"
anywho comparing israel to australia is apple to oranges
but lets be honest where would you rather live. gaza or abu dhabi.
heck i would rather live in abu dhabi then where i live now.
DutchJazzer
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the 12 jewish tribes are "united"
the arab tribes are divided.
the arab tribes are divided.
Troll harder.
DutchJazzer
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♪alt13
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as i told u
this is all about "holy city/land"
anywho comparing israel to australia is apple to oranges
but lets be honest where would you rather live. gaza or abu dhabi.
heck i would rather live in abu dhabi then where i live now.
Why is it ok to ask the Palestinians to leave? You seem to think that because they share an ethnicity with people in another nation they should? That is ridiculous. Why don't Israelis move to New York? See ridiculous.
will you now finally stop with that STOOPID "land-loss" map???
Again, please show me any map pre 1900 and we'll talk.
DutchJazzer
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why does it matter?
i only pulled these maps because enescantearyouapart. pulled a map out of his ***. and the map only went to 1947.
so why does he chose that arbitrariy date.
ooh well you are not well versed on history.
This info was from a media outlet not propaganda:
https://www.vox.com/2014/7/17/5902177/9-questions-about-the-israel-palestine-conflict-you-were-too
Wow.. OK .. so let me get this straight:
- Pre 1900 Arabs were living in Palestine happily
- Then suddenly through the Zionism movement, Jews started moving back into the area because it was their "ancestral homeland"
- War broke out
- In 1947 UN divided the land for Jews and Arabs
- More war broke out, Israel won the war in 1948 and pushed the boundary further out except the West Bank area and the Gaza strip
Wow.. so the Arabs were living happily in that land until the Jews suddenly started moving in and forcing them out??? What am I missing here??? Just because "my ancestors" used to live in that area - I am allowed a right of passage???
Where else in the World are people allowed to do this?? LOL ...
https://www.vox.com/2014/7/17/5902177/9-questions-about-the-israel-palestine-conflict-you-were-too
Wow.. OK .. so let me get this straight:
- Pre 1900 Arabs were living in Palestine happily
- Then suddenly through the Zionism movement, Jews started moving back into the area because it was their "ancestral homeland"
- War broke out
- In 1947 UN divided the land for Jews and Arabs
- More war broke out, Israel won the war in 1948 and pushed the boundary further out except the West Bank area and the Gaza strip
Wow.. so the Arabs were living happily in that land until the Jews suddenly started moving in and forcing them out??? What am I missing here??? Just because "my ancestors" used to live in that area - I am allowed a right of passage???
Where else in the World are people allowed to do this?? LOL ...
heyhey, when and what did I say anything about Turks or Kurds? They are different subjects and if Turks are guilty on something, they are guilty, I don't care! I don't define myself with my nationality, I only look for the truth. You want a truth for instance? Turkey is the second country for having the most UN Resolutions against and it's the same almost every year. We could even lead it but of course Israel is a though opponent to pass!
I don't understand the notion of no war crimes or no war criminals. Children, old, disable, innocent people getting brutally killed? It's war crime, no doubt. If you mean as in, that the words "war" and "crime" are a weird duo, I get it. But it's at least a crime against humanity. Whether it's in war or not. Skip to the 5:38 on the video below please, I couldn't get the timer working.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUeTtpUSPgc&feature=youtu.be&t=5m38s
Watch your mouth idiot, no wonder few people like you around here, I never see you wage a decent discussion more than a few moments.
And you are talking about Palestinian propaganda which is maybe the 1% of the all propaganda flying around about the dispute. The 99% is no doubt the Israel propaganda. The whole America is even clueless about what's going on, I'm following American media for years now and I don't believe they can be any more pro-Israel, even in these ****ing days while Israel terroring the **** out of thousands of innocent people, the harmless victim is the poor Israel in the US media. ****ing unbelievable! Israel is the last state who have the rights to talk about propaganda.
You have your own world in your mind and you truly believe what you want to believe, in your imaginary world, half of the mideast belongs to Israel. That's enough to make you not worthy to discuss with. All you do is Ad Hominem anyway, I'm talking about war crimes, illegal settlements(that the whole world but Israel accepts), Israel's fierceness, you are ****ting around with stupid life styles of stupid rich Arab sheikhs and spitting around borderline racist comments. You fail to understand that you can't go into vicious historical circle to debate who owns the lands or who doesn't. You also want to ignore the after 1940ies while you insist to bring up the ancient times which is nothing but very arguable also. You ignore the whole world that recognize the Israel occupying and then claim it's Palestinian propaganda. And you have no idea how the wikipedia works, if you are doubtful about something go look up to the sources, you don't have to believe anything.
Israel has gone totally nuts, they are beyond fighting against terror or Hamas, they are on the go for revenge, collective punishment, destruction of the vital infrastructure and apparently for a carnage at the very least. They are not targeting, they killed the kids playing on the beach on their second attempts, they killed all the family members of a target including the many children only to not be able to kill the actual target himself. And they do all this while they can defend themselves without having to do all this. You said it yourself, they have the iron dome, they have the drones, they have all kind of fancy weapons and they have every necessities to be able to live as they want to live, yet they are doing their best to destruct the other side, they went first from the air for days, then from the sea for days and now they go with the ground forces.
And your mideast stories, lol, I wish I atleast had the time to educate you about it(believe me you need it) but unfortunately(or luckily) I don't, and even if I had, wouldn't know where to begin with. Maybe I should just say how it all sounds, to me, who lives right in it. It sounds like a 100% pure and arrant Jewish propaganda!
Anyway, here is more Palestinian(!) propaganda to balance it out. A brief sampling of UN Security Council resolutions against Israel:
Resolution 106: The Palestine Question (29 Mar 1955) ‘condemns’ Israel for Gaza raid
Resolution 111: The Palestine Question (January 19, 1956) ” … ‘condemns’ Israel for raid on Syria that killed fifty-six people”
Resolution 127: The Palestine Question (January 22, 1958) ” … ‘recommends’ Israel suspends its ‘no-man’s zone’ in Jerusalem”.
Resolution 162: The Palestine Question (April 11, 1961) ” … ‘urges’ Israel to comply with UN decisions”
Resolution 171: The Palestine Question (April 9, 1962) ” … determines flagrant violations’ by Israel in its attack on Syria”
Resolution 228: The Palestine Question (November 25, 1966) ” … ‘censures’ Israel for its attack onSamu in the West Bank, then under Jordanian control”
Resolution 237: Six Day War June 14, 1967) ” … ‘urges’ Israel to allow return of new 1967 Palestinian refugees”. and called on Israel to ensure the safety and welfare of inhabitants of areas where fighting had taken place
Resolution 248: (March 24, 1968) ” … ‘condemns’ Israel for its massive attack on Karameh in Jordan”
Resolution 256: (August 16) ” … ‘condemns’ Israeli raids on Jordan as ‘flagrant violation”
Resolution 258: (September 18) … expressed ‘concern’ with the welfare of the inhabitants of theIsraeli-occupied territories, and requested a special representative to be sent to report on the implementation of Resolution 237, and that Israel cooperate
Resolution 259: (September 27) ” … ‘deplores’ Israel’s refusal to accept UN mission to probe occupation”
Resolution 262: (December 31) ” … ‘condemns’ Israel for attack on Beirut airport“
Resolution 265: (April 1, 1969) ” … ‘condemns’ Israel for air attacks on Salt“
Resolution 270: (August 26) ” … ‘condemns’ Israel for air attacks on villages in southern Lebanon”
Resolution 279: (May 12, 1970) “Demands the immediate withdrawal of all Israeli armed forces from Lebanese territory”
Resolution 280: (May 19) ” … ‘condemns’ Israeli’s attacks against Lebanon”
Resolution 285: (September 5) ” … ‘demands’ immediate Israeli withdrawal from Lebanon”
Resolution 298: (September 25, 1971) ” … ‘deplores’ Israel’s changing of the status of Jerusalem”
Resolution 316: (June 26) ” … ‘condemns’ Israel for repeated attacks on Lebanon”
Resolution 317: (July 21) ” … ‘deplores’ Israel’s refusal to release Arabs abducted in Lebanon”
Resolution 332: (April 21) ” … ‘condemns’ Israel’s repeated attacks against Lebanon”
Resolution 337: (August 15) ” … ‘condemns’ Israel for violating Lebanon’s sovereignty and territorial integrity and for the forcible diversion and seizure of a Lebanese airliner from Lebanon’s air space”
Resolution 347: (April 24)” … ‘condemns’ Israeli attacks on Lebanon”
Resolution 444: ” … ‘deplores’ Israel’s lack of cooperation with UN peacekeeping forces”
Resolution 446 (1979): ‘determines’ that Israeli settlements are a ‘serious obstruction’ to peace and calls on Israel to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention”
Resolution 450: ” … ‘calls’ on Israel to stop attacking Lebanon”.
Resolution 452: ” … ‘calls’ on Israel to cease building settlements in occupied territories”
Resolution 465: ” … ‘deplores’ Israel’s settlements and asks all member states not to assist Israel’s settlements program”
Resolution 467: ” … ‘strongly deplores’ Israel’s military intervention in Lebanon”
Resolution 468: ” … ‘calls’ on Israel to rescind illegal expulsions of two Palestinian mayors and a judge and to facilitate their return”
Resolution 469: ” … ‘strongly deplores’ Israel’s failure to observe the council’s order not to deport Palestinians”
Resolution 471: ” … ‘expresses deep concern’ at Israel’s failure to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention”
Resolution 478 (20 August 1980): ‘censures (Israel) in the strongest terms’ for its claim to Jerusalemin its ‘Basic Law’
Resolution 487: ” … ‘strongly condemns’ Israel for its attack on Iraq’s nuclear facility”
Resolution 497 (17 December 1981), decides that Israel’s annexation of Syria’s Golan Heights is ‘null and void’ and demands that Israel rescinds its decision forthwith
Resolution 501: ” … ‘calls’ on Israel to stop attacks against Lebanon and withdraw its troops”.Resolution 515: ” … ‘demands’ that Israel lift its siege of Beirut and allow food supplies to be brought in”
Resolution 516, demanded an immediate cessation of military activities in Lebanon, noting violations of the cease-fire in Beirut
Resolution 517: ” … ‘censures’ Israel for failing to obey UN resolutions and demands that Israel withdraw its forces from Lebanon”.
Resolution 520: ” … ‘condemns’ Israel’s attack into West Beirut”.
Resolution 573: ” … ‘condemns’ Israel ‘vigorously’ for bombing Tunisia in attack on PLO headquarters
Resolution 592: ” … ‘strongly deplores’ the killing of Palestinian students at Birzeit University by Israeli troops”
Resolution 605: ” … ‘strongly deplores’ Israel’s policies and practices denying the human rights of Palestinians
Resolution 607: ” … ‘calls’ on Israel not to deport Palestinians and strongly requests it to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention
Resolution 608: ” … ‘deeply regrets’ that Israel has defied the United Nations and deported Palestinian civilians”
Resolution 611: “… condemned Israel’s assassination of Khalil al-Wazir as a ‘flagrant violation of theCharter
Resolution 636: ” … ‘deeply regrets’ Israeli deportation of Palestinian civilians
Resolution 641 (30 Aug 1989): ” … ‘deplores’ Israel’s continuing deportation of Palestinians
Resolution 672 (12 Oct 1990): ” … ‘condemns’ Israel for “violence against Palestinians” at the Haram al-Sharif/Temple Mount
Resolution 673 (24 Oct 1990): ” … ‘deplores’ Israel’s refusal to cooperate with the United Nations
Resolution 681 (20 Dec 1990): ” … ‘deplores’ Israel’s resumption of the deportation of Palestinians
Resolution 694 (24 May 1991): ” … ‘deplores’ Israel’s deportation of Palestinians and calls on it to ensure their safe and immediate return
Resolution 726 (06 Jan 1992): ” … ‘strongly condemns’ Israel’s deportation of Palestinians
Resolution 799 (18 Dec 1992): “. . . ‘strongly condemns’ Israel’s deportation of 413 Palestinians and calls for their immediate return
Resolution 904 (18 Mar 1994): Cave of the Patriarchs massacre
Resolution 1322 (07 Oct 2000) deplored Ariel Sharon‘s visit to the Temple Mount and the violence that followed
Resolution 1435 (24 Sep 2002) demanded an end to Israeli measures in and around Ramallah, and an Israeli withdrawal to positions held before September 2000
They could start by handing the West Bank land back to the Palestinians and not interfering with their government.
Well, shouldm't you first produce something to show it being actually untrue, as opposed to trying to spin it?
Unfortunately I think forced removal of one side or the other is the only way that peace will be established. And then only temporarily as the side that gets removed will no doubt try to return and mess with the other.
The people (Palestinian and Israeli) want peace. The Israeli gov. and hamas do not and they are the ones controlling things.
Jamezz
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This is where approx. 85% of the Jews in today's world come from. Does that look like it's where the 'Promised Land' is supposed to be? Yet most of the media, which is mostly run by this particular kind of Jewish (not the chosen tribe) will propagate inflated numbers about the so called Holocaust and have been using this to their advantage till the modern days. This comes from way further back than the early 20th century. Do a bit of research and you'd be surprised at how many people in positions of power nowadays come not from the 'Promised Land', but Khazaria.
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According to your article (a good one btw) this never happened because the arabs turned down the proposal.
Too bad they didnt approve it, then israel and palestine might each have thier own nice big chunk of land and maybe they wouldnt be fighting.
DutchJazzer
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Btw.
for those who dont know.
20 rockets found in UN SCHOOL!
so yeah if you store weapons in a church, a school, a hospital a library, a baby day care. wtf do you think will happen
the moment weapons of attack are stored there, itbecomes a legitimate target for the army.
for those who dont know.
20 rockets found in UN SCHOOL!
so yeah if you store weapons in a church, a school, a hospital a library, a baby day care. wtf do you think will happen
the moment weapons of attack are stored there, itbecomes a legitimate target for the army.
DutchJazzer
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lol.
thats just a theory pulled out of someones ***.
genetics disproved it.
and even if it where true, it only is true for ashkenazi jews
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