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LBJ supports League Contraction

freakazoid

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Lebron claims the NBA was more popular in the 1980's, due to less teams and more stars per team.

Dumbass, AKA the King, believes the league is watered down, and it would be better if there were less teams with more stars.

Others have suggested the same as well, and have gone so far as to say that things would be more exciting with just the Lakers, Celtics, Knicks, Bulls, Sixers, Braves and Bullets as the major teams in the NBA.

Personally, I consider Lebron to be a total douche, but I'm going to play Devil's advocate.

Just for a minute, let's say he's right. The NBA would be better off by getting rid of a few teams, and sending their stars to other teams who are more established. Let's start with the six teams in the NBA who have the least amount of history.

Getting rid of the last six teams to join the league, we now lose the Raptors, Hornets, Grizzlies, Magic, Wolves and Heat.

Maybe Lebron is on to something? Let's send the stars of those teams to other teams.

-Dwyane Wade to Chicago

-Chris Bosh to Phoenix

-Kevin Love to Utah

-Dwight Howard to Utah

-CP3 to Hell

-Lebron James to Cleveland


Maybe, just maybe, the king of douches is right, for once.
 
King James running his mouth again

LeBron James(notes) has embraced the villain role in a most unprecedented way, pushing away from his peers and aligning himself with David Stern, Dan Gilbert and the owners desperate to destroy the Players Association. He left the sport stunned on Christmas Eve, searching for an understanding of why he would go so far to undermine the union on the cusp of an apocalyptic collective bargaining brawl.

James advocated contraction of teams, the loss of jobs and furthered the make-believe revision that the 1980s had a deeper pool of talent with fewer teams. “Watered down,” he called the NBA, and ownership has been gifted such a public-relations coup in its historic campaign to crush the players’ union.

As one prominent agent said, “How do you say that right before collective bargaining? Does he get that he’s advocating to reduce the number of jobs in the league? LeBron has no idea what happens when he says [stuff] like this.”

What people don’t like now is how a two-time MVP would quit playing in the biggest playoff series of his life, or how a superstar would hijack the NBA Finals stage as a prelude to his free agency or how a star like James can manage the marketing of a rival like Chris Paul(notes). Whatever James’ personal preferences for a league littered with mini All-Star teams, his logic is forever flawed and based on nothing beyond his own myopic prism of the world.

The NBA is a far better, far more popular product today than it ever was in the 1980s, and that’ll be clearer again on Christmas when LeBron James and the Miami Heat play the Los Angeles Lakers at Staples Center. Already, this had promised to be a monumental meeting, but now it becomes so much bigger.

James has raised the stakes and raised ire. Across the floor, Kobe Bryant(notes) and union president Derek Fisher(notes) promise to be livid with such an important player selling out the players’ cause on the eve of the regular-season’s biggest game. Sometimes, James just talks and talks. Sometimes, he knows exactly what he’s doing. In this case, it almost doesn’t matter. The damage is done, and LeBron has breathed credibility into more of ownership’s absurd propaganda.

Here’s an irony, too: Recently, Bryant told Yahoo! Sports, “Hey, I’m a product of the 1980s. That’s the era that I watched and I admired. I do wish we could go back to the ’80s’ style of playing.”

He wasn’t talking about the concentration of star players, but the way the great ones didn’t have to be buddies, didn’t have to run around and gang up in free agency. Bryant loved the physicality, the unapologetic nature of the times. He was raised in Europe, and understands there were far fewer non-American stars in those days, justifiably fewer teams for a smaller pool of players. Now, there’s never been so much global basketball talent, and with proper ownership, management and revenue sharing among owners, the NBA doesn’t need to lose one team.


The 1980s were a romantic time in the sport, a golden era, but there weren’t more deeper, more talented teams in existence than today. It isn’t even close. The Lakers and Celtics were fantastic then, but they would have a hard time beating these Lakers and Celtics teams. Never mind the level of teams trying to beat San Antonio, Dallas, Chicago, Utah and on and on.

And how about the Spurs dynasty, whose eclectic, international roster couldn’t have existed in the 1980s? San Antonio illustrates why the NBA has a much deeper talent pool now, and that’s because of the influx of international players in the game. There are reasons to love the ’80s over today’s game, but that has more to do with the competitive disdain the teams had, the way the Celtics and Lakers, the Pistons and 76ers, hated each other. For James to insist the NBA should do away with the Minnesota Timberwolves and New Jersey Nets so contenders could have Kevin Love(notes) or Devin Harris(notes) is preposterous.

The Timberwolves and Grizzlies are in such terrible shape because of ownership and management decisions. They’re messes because Stern has fostered so many incompetent ownership groups under his watch, and then pushed bad executives into small markets in political paybacks. James should understand these things, but doesn’t take the time – nor do the people surrounding him. When the Players Association wanted LeBron involved a couple of years ago, James’ camp insisted it must let his business manager, Maverick Carter, sit in on one of the big agent meetings. Carter isn’t an agent, but just plays one on his personal cable sports television network.

Here’s the case James could make, and he’d be right: The biggest stars in the sport – LeBron, Kobe, Dwyane Wade(notes) – are far underpaid with maximum contracts. And the rest of the league’s players? They’re mostly overpaid. Privately, Lakers owner Jerry Buss tells people that Bryant has been worth as much as $80 million a year to his franchise. Most of the players in the sport are interchangeable and never affect television ratings, ticket sales or merchandising. Yet, Kobe and LeBron – and before them Michael, Magic and Larry – are responsible for the sport’s immense popularity and profitability.

The Players Association is a one-man, one-vote entity, so you’ll never see it willing to sell out its self-interests for the elite to make $50 million a season. Owners created the max contract to cap the pay of the biggest stars, but ended up giving those deals out like cotton candy to the Rudy Gays and Joe Johnsons of the world. That’s on ownership, not the players.

Nevertheless, you have to give King James this credit: He’s embraced the villain role like no one before him and alienated people at a historically rapid rate. Now he’s isolating himself among his peers, and that’s a bold, unprecedented move on his part. The NBA has never had a superstar align himself with the interests of the commissioner and owners on the cusp of such a monumental fight, but understand this: It’s an edgy move that will win him favor in the league office.


This promises to be a lonely road for James, especially in the context of the game’s most important figures. When it comes to this CBA Armageddon, Kobe Bryant made himself clear to Yahoo! Sports weeks ago. “I’m 100 percent in this fight. I’m not going to just sit here and give back what guys have fought for in this league long before I got here – not for us now, or the players who come after us. I’m not backing down.”

Christmas Day at Staples Center, and the battle between basketball’s two biggest stars has never been framed with such a resounding, rigid narrative. Two worlds clashing now, two ways for everything to go in this sport. Suddenly, this is LeBron James vs. Kobe Bryant for the future of the National Basketball Association.

Source - https://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-kobelebron122410

I miss the 80's style of play (Physical) but I do feel the overall talent level is much higher today. I really feel like the players need to put this guy in his place.
 
Contraction wouldn't be the worst idea but seriously doubtful it would ever happen. What do they say to the Memphis Grizzlies? "Sorry but we don't want you anymore. You're out." They'd get sued or have to buy their franchise(when half the league is losing money already?). Not gonna happen.

Start with getting rid of fully guaranteed contracts. Only up 50% of a contract can be fully guaranteed from now on. That's what waters down the game. AK making 17M, Rashard Lewis making 20M these teams become crippled from doing anything else.

The talent is way better now than it's every been top to bottom. The way the whole thing is managed is what is wrong.
Hard cap.
 
They need to add a team in Vegas and Seattle. Then like others have said. Kill the guarnteed contracts, put in a hard cap, and force the refs to allow more physical play. This pretty much solves the NBA's problems. Needless to say we are heading for a lockout.
 
They need to add a team in Vegas and Seattle. Then like others have said. Kill the guarnteed contracts, put in a hard cap, and force the refs to allow more physical play. This pretty much solves the NBA's problems. Needless to say we are heading for a lockout.

....I say force the refs to call palming and traveling....and crack down on the physical play! After all, basketball is suppose to be a non-contact sport, right? Hard cap is an excellent idea, as is no guaranteed contracts! While they're at it, no more than 2 jailhouse tats per square inch of flesh!
 
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I think he is right. I think there is a dilution of talent with this many teams. It would be better with fewer teams, imho. I would like to see them drop back to 24 teams or such. 2 division of 6 teams in each conference, or 4 teams per division in the current set-up.

They could drop the clippers and no one would notice. They never compete, even with the most top 5 picks in the history of the NBA they can't put a competitive team on the floor. Not hard to find 5 others to drop.

Maybe take the worst teams by history of the franchise and drop them down to the D league, after holding a draft to move their talent to other teams. Each of the 6 teams would open their entire roster to the reassignment draft, but once they have lost 4 players they cannot have any more taken from the team. The remaining players become free agents, the franchises move to the D-league and can take 5 of their remaining players with them, maintaining their contracts, after which they also become unrestricted free agents. They could have a reassignment draft in the D-league, similar to how the NBA does it when they start up a new team, and it would become more of a farm league than it is now, with a stronger talent pool.

That would make for better games in the D-league and stronger competition for player development (so you wouldn't get a Morris Almond, a non-NBA caliber player, owning the D-league thereby inflating his image artificially). Just an idea off the top of my head, but I think something similar would be possible. It would make for a better product all around too.
 
They could drop the clippers and no one would notice. They never compete, even with the most top 5 picks in the history of the NBA they can't put a competitive team on the floor. Not hard to find 5 others to drop.


problem with that is 50% of the fans would like jazz to be one of those 5 teams
 
problem with that is 50% of the fans would like jazz to be one of those 5 teams

That is why I said they should use franchise success record to determine it. Fan votes are the biggest joke there is, just look at the all-star game.
 
Since the same thread is in 2 separate sections I might as well copy this here:

I think he is right. I think there is a dilution of talent with this many teams. It would be better with fewer teams, imho. I would like to see them drop back to 24 teams or such. 2 division of 6 teams in each conference, or 4 teams per division in the current set-up.

They could drop the clippers and no one would notice. They never compete, even with the most top 5 picks in the history of the NBA they can't put a competitive team on the floor. Not hard to find 5 others to drop.

Maybe take the worst teams by history of the franchise and drop them down to the D league, after holding a draft to move their talent to other teams. Each of the 6 teams would open their entire roster to the reassignment draft, but once they have lost 4 players they cannot have any more taken from the team. The remaining players become free agents, the franchises move to the D-league and can take 5 of their remaining players with them, maintaining their contracts, after which they also become unrestricted free agents. They could have a reassignment draft in the D-league, similar to how the NBA does it when they start up a new team, and it would become more of a farm league than it is now, with a stronger talent pool.

That would make for better games in the D-league and stronger competition for player development (so you wouldn't get a Morris Almond, a non-NBA caliber player, owning the D-league thereby inflating his image artificially). Just an idea off the top of my head, but I think something similar would be possible. It would make for a better product all around too.
 
Woj is probably my favorite NBA writer nowadays. Stories are always filled with interesting tidbits instead of trying to be cute.
 
If you are going to go as far as contraction, why not shorten the season as well? 82 games is too much, and it's horrible to see SportsCenter highlights in mid-February of a game between mediocre teams like Grizzles vs. Wizards.

Crop the league to 25 teams, shorten the season to 50 or 60 games (extend playoffs to best-of-9 for the championship maybe) and start calling technical fouls on flops.
 
problem with that is 50% of the fans would like jazz to be one of those 5 teams

...can't drop the Jazz. They are one of the more successful teams in the NBA and sports in general! Sell out, stay competitive, make the playoffs, advance most of the time when making the playoffs, fun to watch, fundamentally sound, and fiscally responsible, Klinko's contract not withstanding!
 
Woj is probably my favorite NBA writer nowadays. Stories are always filled with interesting tidbits instead of trying to be cute.

His dislike for James completely taints his articles though. In many of his articles, his leaps in logic are quite dumbfounding.
 
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