Israel Commences Ground Invasion into Gaza.

[The Blue Elephant]

Annual growth rate of Gaza population 2.91% (13th in the world)

Annual growth rate of Israel population 1.44% (84th in the world)

The Palestine population is growing at over double the rate as the Jewish population.

Source https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2002rank.html

I may be naïve and uneducated on the subject but at this point it is all speculation, nobody knows for certain what will happen. If I had to speculate I predict that it will be a single state ruled by Palestine in the future.

 

[One Brow]

What country has true self-rule these days? North Korea, maybe? We live in an age where sovereignty is given up in order to achieve things like economic cooperation, peace, etc.

The very terms "economic cooperation" and "peace" require that the country involved be able to decide for itself the level of cooperation and the level of peace. Your mental gymnastics are quite impressive.

 

[eacioban]

Annual growth rate of Gaza population 2.91% (13th in the world)

Annual growth rate of Israel population 1.44% (84th in the world)

The Palestine population is growing at over double the rate as the Jewish population.

Source https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2002rank.html

I may be naïve and uneducated on the subject but at this point it is all speculation, nobody knows for certain what will happen. If I had to speculate I predict that it will be a single state ruled by Palestine in the future.

You may be right, but you have to take into consideration the fact that most of the women in Gaza are being deprived of education. With female education being the single most significant factor controlling reproduction rates, it is quite possible that enhancing the welfare of the Gaza Palestinians and providing decent education for all, might change your prediction.
Current situation in Gaza is intolerable for the casual Palestinian. They do not have a proper civilian infrastructure whatsoever. The vast amounts of money invested over there wasn't translated into civilian welfare at all. Each tunnel alone costed them around $1,000,000, and Israel found 34 by now, with estimated number much higher. Developing the impressive rockets arsenal costed them around $5,000,000. This money could have been directed to schools and welfare, but they didn't do it. Hamas secures its future by mass numbers, and you shouldn't educate you civilians to achieve that. They should secure their future by educating they society, but that would possibly end their rule over the Gaza Palestinians.

 

[The Blue Elephant]

Actually now that I look back the Japanese defeated the Chinese in world war 2 and the Chinese had 10 times their population.

 

[eacioban]

Actually now that I look back the Japanese defeated the Chinese in world war 2 and the Chinese had 10 times their population.

Just to be historically accurate - China was a shattered country back than, having suffered foreign invasions and the world's worst civil war, that resulted in a regime that physically oppressed the population. Japan was a nation that was never invaded until than, preparing for a war and conquest for more than a decade.

 

[The Blue Elephant]

Just to be historically accurate - China was a shattered country back than, having suffered foreign invasions and the world's worst civil war, that resulted in a regime that physically oppressed the population. Japan was a nation that was never invaded until than, preparing for a war and conquest for more than a decade.

I see the similarities in China and Gaza even more now Just playing.

On side note I knew this kid in high school who was from China and he ****ing hated Japanese people so hard. His username for video games/online accounts was always "japkiller". He views Chinamen as a superior race. He claimed to study Microbiology because he said he wanted to create a virus that targets and kills Japanese people. Whenever he brought up how great China is I always mention they lost to Japan to inferior numbers and he got mad. My ancestors are from Norway so he always tried to talk **** about vikings but really couldn't . Man I hated that kid, he loved telling your momma jokes and thought he was clever.

 

[eacioban]

I see the similarities in China and Gaza even more now Just playing.

Well, the first thing you learn from history is that it may be similar but is never the same.

Regarding that kid - hatred is such a waste of energy... to quote a dead Israeli poet: "dried bones do not fight wars"

 

[GVC]

I believe a single state solution is not a solution at all, but a contradiction to both sides' aspirations. Unlike the case of South Africa, and more like the cases of former Yugoslavia, former Czechoslovakia, former Austro-Hungarian Empire, Spain and the Basks, you can't have two, or more, nationally different populations living together in good terms. I do believe that the two nations solution is slowly heading in the right direction as we speak. You see, Hamas actually drive the Palestinians closer to Israel than they wish. I think the Palestinian people start to realize that residing next to Israel is not that bad of a way to live. I think that the fact that Hamas and its leaders spent literally hundreds of millions dollars on weapons and tunnels that mostly failed, shows that they can't be the solution. On the other hand, If the Palestinians can guarantee to stop all terror attempts, they will enjoy Israel's and the world's financial and infrastructure support. Just so you know, most of the tunnels that Hamas built are made of Israeli concrete that was sent to the Gaza strip in order to rebuild it after the 2008 operation.

Sadly, I believe the current conflict was unavoidable due to Hamas's persistence to harm Israel, even if that means hurting the Palestinians even more.
Even more saddening is the fact that the current conflict strengthened the rightist radicals in Israel, and more people than I would like started to support their views. It is a natural and frightening phenomena, but it happens everywhere in the world, much like what happened after 9/11 in the US.

Maybe I'm not understanding, but it seems as though Gaza, led by a more violent regime, has more autonomy than the West Bank, led by a much more peaceful regime. Further, Israeli settlements continue to be built in the West Bank. Fatah seems to be the most reasonable party in this whole mess at this point, and they get **** on the most. Why would Gazans have any confidence in peace if it's been completely ineffective in the West Bank?

 

[eacioban]

Maybe I'm not understanding, but it seems as though Gaza, led by a more violent regime, has more autonomy than the West Bank, led by a much more peaceful regime. Further, Israeli settlements continue to be built in the West Bank. Why would Gazans have any confidence in peace if it's been completely ineffective in the West Bank?

I agree that the settlements are a pain in the butt, but they are being negotiated. The fact is that new settlements are not being built, but they do expand existing ones. There are serious talks about lands exchange and evacuation of remote settlements deep inside Palestinian territories. By the way, Hamas's authority in Gaza is a result of a complete Israeli disengagement from the Gaza Strip in 2005 - 23 settlements were evacuated. In fact, the Gazans should have more trust in Israeli promises than the West Bankians...

 

[The Blue Elephant]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QiV9xn0RbI&feature=youtu.be

Interesting video I found.

 

[jimmy eat jazz]

For what it's worth, I've done a good deal of work in the West Bank (I am not allowed to travel to Gaza despite the fact that the programs I work for have operations there). I've never had a single problem with anyone; I wander the streets in Ramallah or Bethlehem or Nablus and am perfectly safe. The people I work with are normal people and are conflict weary and just want to get on with their lives. Granted, the West Bank is controlled by the Palestinian Authority and Gaza by Hamas, but I imagine many in Gaza feel the same.

At the same time, the Israeli restrictions on movement and access do impose a significant burden on the population of the West Bank, not only in terms of personal freedom/movement but also in terms of the movement of goods, services, capital, etc. It affects economic growth rates and potential, contributes to high unemployment, especially among youth, and produces a smoldering (and perfectly understandable) resentment. Meanwhile, radical or more extreme Jews are unilaterally occupying Arab land in the West Bank to build settlements, and the local population can do nothing to stop it. (These are often the same fundamentalist Jews whom Israeli law exempts from serving in the military and who are not expected to work for a living and are heavily subsidized by the state.) Were I a normal Palestinian, I would be mad as hell about all of this, and I imagine this feeling is only magnified in Gaza, which is a tiny, overpopulated strip of land. I'm neither pro-Palestinian nor pro-Israel, but I do think there's a story to be told about the Palestinian experience/perceptions that is not being told due to the loud, knee-jerk, uncritical pro-Israeli sentiment in this country.

 

[Hax0rs]

As a jew and as an Israeli, I say this video is dumb.
Over simplifying the complex reality always results in an unbelievable propaganda effort. I get it that starting to explain reality to someone who has no clue about it is impossible, but dumbing them down is worst.
I usually do not comment here on political subjects, but I do want to send one clear message to you all:

Most of you probably have no real understanding about the nature of the Israeli-Hamas conflict. Take notice I do not classify it as Israeli-Palestinian conflict. A lot of you sound very reasonable opinions that are based on poor or incomplete knowledge. I strongly support humane attitudes, but relaying on them alone is nothing more than wishful thinking. If you do want to understand, I urge you study the conflict before you share your opinion. I say this as a true believer in peaceful conflict resolution and as an historian. When I was researching the American colonies - Native American conflict, I quickly realized i'm in no position to declare any moral opinion about it as I can not paint a detailed enough picture of it for me to learn from. I sure had some thoughts about it, but the facts kept tilting them from side to side.

I advise you and urge you to do the same.

Well, I dont think Likud believe in your words, here is what Ayelet Shaked (a Likud psychopath) had to say,

“Behind every terrorist stand dozens of men and women, without whom he could not engage in terrorism. They are all enemy combatants, and their blood shall be on all their heads. Now this also includes the mothers of the martyrs, who send them to hell with flowers and kisses. They should follow their sons, nothing would be more just. They should go, as should the physical homes in which they raised the snakes. Otherwise, more little snakes will be raised there.”

Mossad created Hamas, just as the CIA created the Mujaheddin aka toadys Al-Qaeda . When you create a terrorist for your own use, sometimes it may bite the hand that fed it. Also, the Native American comparison is almost laughable. You are talking two centuries difference here, are you telling me the typical Israeli mindset still that of someone living in the 18th Century? I don't see Ultra Orthodox Jews calling for the extermination of a race of people. No wonder Mr Einstein wouldn't take the presidency, he knew Haherut/Likud was the brother of Nazism. Before 1946, Jews and Muslims would watch each others kids, eat meals together, and share land. As is very apparent, that's not the case anymore.

Of course you don't like the video and timetable I posted which are both historically accurate, they don't fit Zionist propaganda.

 

[The Blue Elephant]

Of course you don't like the video and timetable I posted which are both historically accurate, they don't fit Zionist propaganda.

Everyone is trapped in their own perspective. I would just hope everyone realizes this and try's to mitigate it as much as possible.

 

[jimmy eat jazz]

I agree that the settlements are a pain in the butt, but they are being negotiated. The fact is that new settlements are not being built, but they do expand existing ones. There are serious talks about lands exchange and evacuation of remote settlements deep inside Palestinian territories.

So, to put this in another context, say YOU own some land. Someone, without permission, builds a house on YOUR land. But to show their 'good faith,' they agree to limit further theft of YOUR land to expanding their existing house but not to build additional houses, and also agree to exchange other land to appease you. Are YOU happy with this? Do YOU think this is just?

How the hell is negotiating a deal with someone who steals from you to keep him from stealing more in any way an acceptable thing?

 

[eacioban]

So, to put this in another context, say YOU own some land. Someone, without permission, builds a house on YOUR land. But to show their 'good faith,' they agree to limit further theft of YOUR land to expanding their existing house but not to build additional houses, and also agree to exchange other land to appease you. Are YOU happy with this? Do YOU think this is just?

How the hell is negotiating a deal with someone who steals from you to keep him from stealing more in any way an acceptable thing?

I totally understand your claim, and can actually agree with it. But, as I said before - reality is much more complex than that. I'm not asking you to imagine anything, just bringing facts to the table. A rational response to the case you presented should not include targeting civilians in purpose of targeting civilians.
One might ask what is the goal you are trying to achieve when you blow up dozens of buses and restaurants in heartland Israel? are you trying to signal you do not approve of settlements? I can somehow understand terror attacks against settlements. I can't and wouldn't understand killing 29 kids waiting in line to enter a dance club.

So sure, If I was a Palestinian I would have been angry as hell. Would I go slain civilians to express it? HELL NO!
Talking to several Palestinians while serving in the army myself, they said they are craving to go back to the times before the suicide terror attacks in Israel, when there was much more freedom in the West Bank, and there was a genuine feeling of hope.

I heartily recommend reading the Hamas Covenant from 1988 (that is only 26 years ago, it was not written in the 8th century...), it is very "enlightening", for example:

Article Thirteen:

Initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and international conferences, are in contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement. Abusing any part of Palestine is abuse directed against part of religion. Nationalism of the Islamic Resistance Movement is part of its religion. Its members have been fed on that. For the sake of hoisting the banner of Allah over their homeland they fight. "Allah will be prominent, but most people do not know."

Now and then the call goes out for the convening of an international conference to look for ways of solving the (Palestinian) question. Some accept, others reject the idea, for this or other reason, with one stipulation or more for consent to convening the conference and participating in it. Knowing the parties constituting the conference, their past and present attitudes towards Moslem problems, the Islamic Resistance Movement does not consider these conferences capable of realising the demands, restoring the rights or doing justice to the oppressed. These conferences are only ways of setting the infidels in the land of the Moslems as arbitraters. When did the infidels do justice to the believers?

"But the Jews will not be pleased with thee, neither the Christians, until thou follow their religion; say, The direction of Allah is the true direction. And verily if thou follow their desires, after the knowledge which hath been given thee, thou shalt find no patron or protector against Allah." (The Cow - verse 120).
There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors. The Palestinian people know better than to consent to having their future, rights and fate toyed with. As in said in the honourable Hadith:

"The people of Syria are Allah's lash in His land. He wreaks His vengeance through them against whomsoever He wishes among His slaves It is unthinkable that those who are double-faced among them should prosper over the faithful. They will certainly die out of grief and desperation."

https://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/hamas.asp

BTW - the Hamas re approve this covenant each year and new members swear to it. it is not an ancient outdated relic according to them.

 

[Fabtrey]

Hmm interesting this video was created by a Jewish Woman. Didn't expect that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nina_Paley

that's the human history. fighting for the land is so lame. retarded, honestly.

 

[Fabtrey]

I see the similarities in China and Gaza even more now Just playing.

On side note I knew this kid in high school who was from China and he ****ing hated Japanese people so hard. His username for video games/online accounts was always "japkiller". He views Chinamen as a superior race. He claimed to study Microbiology because he said he wanted to create a virus that targets and kills Japanese people. Whenever he brought up how great China is I always mention they lost to Japan to inferior numbers and he got mad. My ancestors are from Norway so he always tried to talk **** about vikings but really couldn't . Man I hated that kid, he loved telling your momma jokes and thought he was clever.

well, he has a right to hate japanese. i don't agree with it, but i understand it. the things japanese did to chinese/korean were not human. would you blame Jews if they hate germans? i won't. i had a elderly Jewish neighbor and she really hated my german shep with a passion. she loves all the dog. but not mine. lol

 

[jimmy eat jazz]

I totally understand your claim, and can actually agree with it. But, as I said before - reality is much more complex than that. I'm not asking you to imagine anything, just bringing facts to the table. A rational response to the case you presented should not include targeting civilians in purpose of targeting civilians.
One might ask what is the goal you are trying to achieve when you blow up dozens of buses and restaurants in heartland Israel? are you trying to signal you do not approve of settlements? I can somehow understand terror attacks against settlements. I can't and wouldn't understand killing 29 kids waiting in line to enter a dance club.

So sure, If I was a Palestinian I would have been angry as hell. Would I go slain civilians to express it? HELL NO!

Note I am in no way endorsing Hamas, or killing civilians, or terrorism in general. I am merely pointing out that Palestinians have very legitimate grievances that do not get the coverage/discussion they deserve in the US media. One, however, cannot be surprises that these grievances translated at times, particularly among the more radicalized young men (whose situation is perhaps the most dire among Palestinians) into violence. Hell, the US rebelled violently over 200 years ago under conditions that were far, far more benign than what's going on in Palestine. They were heros, yet oppressed Palestinians who rebel with violence are, de facto, terrorists? I think that they'd be damned no matter what they did--even if they targeted purely military targets or the infrastructure of the apparatus that oppresses them. We'd still consider them terrorists. I'm struggling to understand where the fine line between being a terrorist and a legit 'freedom fighter' lies. (Again, I do not approve of the form the rebellion takes when it targets civilians.)

 

[jimmy eat jazz]

heyhey, when and what did I say anything about Turks or Kurds? They are different subjects and if Turks are guilty on something, they are guilty, I don't care! I don't define myself with my nationality, I only look for the truth. You want a truth for instance? Turkey is the second country for having the most UN Resolutions against and it's the same almost every year. We could even lead it but of course Israel is a though opponent to pass!

I don't understand the notion of no war crimes or no war criminals. Children, old, disable, innocent people getting brutally killed? It's war crime, no doubt. If you mean as in, that the words "war" and "crime" are a weird duo, I get it. But it's at least a crime against humanity. Whether it's in war or not. Skip to the 5:38 on the video below please, I couldn't get the timer working.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUeTtpUSPgc&feature=youtu.be&t=5m38s


Watch your mouth idiot, no wonder few people like you around here, I never see you wage a decent discussion more than a few moments.

And you are talking about Palestinian propaganda which is maybe the 1% of the all propaganda flying around about the dispute. The 99% is no doubt the Israel propaganda. The whole America is even clueless about what's going on, I'm following American media for years now and I don't believe they can be any more pro-Israel, even in these ****ing days while Israel terroring the **** out of thousands of innocent people, the harmless victim is the poor Israel in the US media. ****ing unbelievable! Israel is the last state who have the rights to talk about propaganda.

You have your own world in your mind and you truly believe what you want to believe, in your imaginary world, half of the mideast belongs to Israel. That's enough to make you not worthy to discuss with. All you do is Ad Hominem anyway, I'm talking about war crimes, illegal settlements(that the whole world but Israel accepts), Israel's fierceness, you are ****ting around with stupid life styles of stupid rich Arab sheikhs and spitting around borderline racist comments. You fail to understand that you can't go into vicious historical circle to debate who owns the lands or who doesn't. You also want to ignore the after 1940ies while you insist to bring up the ancient times which is nothing but very arguable also. You ignore the whole world that recognize the Israel occupying and then claim it's Palestinian propaganda. And you have no idea how the wikipedia works, if you are doubtful about something go look up to the sources, you don't have to believe anything.

Israel has gone totally nuts, they are beyond fighting against terror or Hamas, they are on the go for revenge, collective punishment, destruction of the vital infrastructure and apparently for a carnage at the very least. They are not targeting, they killed the kids playing on the beach on their second attempts, they killed all the family members of a target including the many children only to not be able to kill the actual target himself. And they do all this while they can defend themselves without having to do all this. You said it yourself, they have the iron dome, they have the drones, they have all kind of fancy weapons and they have every necessities to be able to live as they want to live, yet they are doing their best to destruct the other side, they went first from the air for days, then from the sea for days and now they go with the ground forces.

And your mideast stories, lol, I wish I atleast had the time to educate you about it(believe me you need it) but unfortunately(or luckily) I don't, and even if I had, wouldn't know where to begin with. Maybe I should just say how it all sounds, to me, who lives right in it. It sounds like a 100% pure and arrant Jewish propaganda!


Anyway, here is more Palestinian(!) propaganda to balance it out. A brief sampling of UN Security Council resolutions against Israel:

Resolution 106: The Palestine Question (29 Mar 1955) ‘condemns’ Israel for Gaza raid

Resolution 111: The Palestine Question (January 19, 1956) ” … ‘condemns’ Israel for raid on Syria that killed fifty-six people”

Resolution 127: The Palestine Question (January 22, 1958) ” … ‘recommends’ Israel suspends its ‘no-man’s zone’ in Jerusalem”.

Resolution 162: The Palestine Question (April 11, 1961) ” … ‘urges’ Israel to comply with UN decisions”

Resolution 171: The Palestine Question (April 9, 1962) ” … determines flagrant violations’ by Israel in its attack on Syria”

Resolution 228: The Palestine Question (November 25, 1966) ” … ‘censures’ Israel for its attack onSamu in the West Bank, then under Jordanian control”

Resolution 237: Six Day War June 14, 1967) ” … ‘urges’ Israel to allow return of new 1967 Palestinian refugees”. and called on Israel to ensure the safety and welfare of inhabitants of areas where fighting had taken place

Resolution 248: (March 24, 1968) ” … ‘condemns’ Israel for its massive attack on Karameh in Jordan”

Resolution 256: (August 16) ” … ‘condemns’ Israeli raids on Jordan as ‘flagrant violation”

Resolution 258: (September 18) … expressed ‘concern’ with the welfare of the inhabitants of theIsraeli-occupied territories, and requested a special representative to be sent to report on the implementation of Resolution 237, and that Israel cooperate

Resolution 259: (September 27) ” … ‘deplores’ Israel’s refusal to accept UN mission to probe occupation”

Resolution 262: (December 31) ” … ‘condemns’ Israel for attack on Beirut airport“

Resolution 265: (April 1, 1969) ” … ‘condemns’ Israel for air attacks on Salt“

Resolution 270: (August 26) ” … ‘condemns’ Israel for air attacks on villages in southern Lebanon”

Resolution 279: (May 12, 1970) “Demands the immediate withdrawal of all Israeli armed forces from Lebanese territory”

Resolution 280: (May 19) ” … ‘condemns’ Israeli’s attacks against Lebanon”

Resolution 285: (September 5) ” … ‘demands’ immediate Israeli withdrawal from Lebanon”

Resolution 298: (September 25, 1971) ” … ‘deplores’ Israel’s changing of the status of Jerusalem”

Resolution 316: (June 26) ” … ‘condemns’ Israel for repeated attacks on Lebanon”

Resolution 317: (July 21) ” … ‘deplores’ Israel’s refusal to release Arabs abducted in Lebanon”

Resolution 332: (April 21) ” … ‘condemns’ Israel’s repeated attacks against Lebanon”

Resolution 337: (August 15) ” … ‘condemns’ Israel for violating Lebanon’s sovereignty and territorial integrity and for the forcible diversion and seizure of a Lebanese airliner from Lebanon’s air space”

Resolution 347: (April 24)” … ‘condemns’ Israeli attacks on Lebanon”

Resolution 444: ” … ‘deplores’ Israel’s lack of cooperation with UN peacekeeping forces”

Resolution 446 (1979): ‘determines’ that Israeli settlements are a ‘serious obstruction’ to peace and calls on Israel to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention”

Resolution 450: ” … ‘calls’ on Israel to stop attacking Lebanon”.

Resolution 452: ” … ‘calls’ on Israel to cease building settlements in occupied territories”

Resolution 465: ” … ‘deplores’ Israel’s settlements and asks all member states not to assist Israel’s settlements program”

Resolution 467: ” … ‘strongly deplores’ Israel’s military intervention in Lebanon”

Resolution 468: ” … ‘calls’ on Israel to rescind illegal expulsions of two Palestinian mayors and a judge and to facilitate their return”

Resolution 469: ” … ‘strongly deplores’ Israel’s failure to observe the council’s order not to deport Palestinians”

Resolution 471: ” … ‘expresses deep concern’ at Israel’s failure to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention”

Resolution 478 (20 August 1980): ‘censures (Israel) in the strongest terms’ for its claim to Jerusalemin its ‘Basic Law’

Resolution 487: ” … ‘strongly condemns’ Israel for its attack on Iraq’s nuclear facility”

Resolution 497 (17 December 1981), decides that Israel’s annexation of Syria’s Golan Heights is ‘null and void’ and demands that Israel rescinds its decision forthwith

Resolution 501: ” … ‘calls’ on Israel to stop attacks against Lebanon and withdraw its troops”.Resolution 515: ” … ‘demands’ that Israel lift its siege of Beirut and allow food supplies to be brought in”

Resolution 516, demanded an immediate cessation of military activities in Lebanon, noting violations of the cease-fire in Beirut

Resolution 517: ” … ‘censures’ Israel for failing to obey UN resolutions and demands that Israel withdraw its forces from Lebanon”.

Resolution 520: ” … ‘condemns’ Israel’s attack into West Beirut”.

Resolution 573: ” … ‘condemns’ Israel ‘vigorously’ for bombing Tunisia in attack on PLO headquarters

Resolution 592: ” … ‘strongly deplores’ the killing of Palestinian students at Birzeit University by Israeli troops”

Resolution 605: ” … ‘strongly deplores’ Israel’s policies and practices denying the human rights of Palestinians

Resolution 607: ” … ‘calls’ on Israel not to deport Palestinians and strongly requests it to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention

Resolution 608: ” … ‘deeply regrets’ that Israel has defied the United Nations and deported Palestinian civilians”

Resolution 611: “… condemned Israel’s assassination of Khalil al-Wazir as a ‘flagrant violation of theCharter

Resolution 636: ” … ‘deeply regrets’ Israeli deportation of Palestinian civilians

Resolution 641 (30 Aug 1989): ” … ‘deplores’ Israel’s continuing deportation of Palestinians

Resolution 672 (12 Oct 1990): ” … ‘condemns’ Israel for “violence against Palestinians” at the Haram al-Sharif/Temple Mount

Resolution 673 (24 Oct 1990): ” … ‘deplores’ Israel’s refusal to cooperate with the United Nations

Resolution 681 (20 Dec 1990): ” … ‘deplores’ Israel’s resumption of the deportation of Palestinians

Resolution 694 (24 May 1991): ” … ‘deplores’ Israel’s deportation of Palestinians and calls on it to ensure their safe and immediate return

Resolution 726 (06 Jan 1992): ” … ‘strongly condemns’ Israel’s deportation of Palestinians

Resolution 799 (18 Dec 1992): “. . . ‘strongly condemns’ Israel’s deportation of 413 Palestinians and calls for their immediate return

Resolution 904 (18 Mar 1994): Cave of the Patriarchs massacre

Resolution 1322 (07 Oct 2000) deplored Ariel Sharon‘s visit to the Temple Mount and the violence that followed

Resolution 1435 (24 Sep 2002) demanded an end to Israeli measures in and around Ramallah, and an Israeli withdrawal to positions held before September 2000

Just out of curiosity, what do you hope to gain by arguing with DutchJazzer? The marginal returns of devoting so much time and effort into such as the above post with the hope of adding any nuance to DutchJazzer's thinking can't be very large, can they?

 

[jimmy eat jazz]

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