billyshelby
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Yeah, eliminate the safeguards and kill them quicker so we can save lots of money. It's just an accident if they die, anyway. I hate those candyass innocent people whining at their own executions.
My argument for the death penalty...
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Yeah, eliminate the safeguards and kill them quicker so we can save lots of money. It's just an accident if they die, anyway. I hate those candyass innocent people whining at their own executions.
Don't be stingy with your bullets. Shoot them twice just to make sure they are dead.
Hopper
Banned
Kinda like the "two-bagger" precaution in the case of especially ugly wimminz you're gunna do when your drunk, eh, Marcus? If that's what it is, then, hell yeah. Make it a triple tap!
billyshelby
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No, but some of them might be exonerated, as many now have. You know, the ones that would have been killed under the televised Hang 'em High Policy you advocate.
It doesn't matter how many bags you use, you're still going to end up with a bear trap in the morning.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_tap
It's a technique that requires practice. You shoot an aimed shot and follow up with a second aimed shot very quickly. Sometimes policy or SOP is that if you shoot you should double-tap to increase the chance that you completely stop the threat on the first "salvo."
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Hopper
Banned
Imagine some ole guy, bout 67 years old, layin on his cot, on his last legs, ready to kick the bucket, any ole day. He's been slowly dyin of liver cancer for the last couple of years, screamin 24/7 for morphine, but he never really got proper medical attention because he aint got no money, er nuthin.
This guy was convicted of murder and given the death penalty 35 years ago, but there was always another appeal to pursue, so they never got around to executin his ***. Mebbe he was innocent, mebbe not, but, either way, he's thinkin: "Why didn't they give me that completely painless lethal injection years back!? They aint been nuthin but misery in my life since I hit this here joint anywaze."
This guy was convicted of murder and given the death penalty 35 years ago, but there was always another appeal to pursue, so they never got around to executin his ***. Mebbe he was innocent, mebbe not, but, either way, he's thinkin: "Why didn't they give me that completely painless lethal injection years back!? They aint been nuthin but misery in my life since I hit this here joint anywaze."
Hopper
Banned
Then, this ole guy, he gitz his last vistor. Some guy he don't even know comes into his cell, and says: "Hay, there, my name's Biley. 35 years ago I was personally assigned to watch over you: seek stays of execution, dream up new reasons for appeals, all that kinda stuff. Ya might wanna call me your "guardian angel." I heard ya was dyin, so I come by to see if ya had any last requests I could fulfill."
The guy says: "Thank Gawd. Yeah, there is! Please gimme a loaded gun, a belt I can hang myself with, anything that will kill me."
Biley, bein the thoughtful, ever-prepared, living saint that he is, hands the guy a gun.
Then, finally, the prisoner shoots himself---after wastin Biley first, of course.
The guy says: "Thank Gawd. Yeah, there is! Please gimme a loaded gun, a belt I can hang myself with, anything that will kill me."
Biley, bein the thoughtful, ever-prepared, living saint that he is, hands the guy a gun.
Then, finally, the prisoner shoots himself---after wastin Biley first, of course.
billyshelby
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Storytime with aint. I'm honored to be the star of today's nursery rhyme. Of course, it's your standard evasive tactic stylistically and substantively as it distorts the essence of the entire argument in a lame attempt at humor. And I've already addressed the underlying point of your corny, tangential anecdote several times in posts throughout this thread. The only difference is I did it in plain English. You won't do that because plain English would reveal your flimsy argument for being as worthless, illogical, and unfounded as it is. It would also reveal who you are--someone who desperately wants something to be true that isn't, and will stoop to any level of rhetorical obfuscation to achieve it. Basically, a common propagandist, as I've always said.
Hopper
Banned
I gotta fess up, Biley, I clean underestimated ya. Ya done took the lead, back there a spell, and now you're the clear front runner.
Good work!
Hopper
Banned
As I said before, none of these prosecutors lied in court (nor did Nifong as far as I know--his case never even went to trial).
In my example, 2 of the prosecutors allegedly knew the testimony of the witnesses they called was false. The third apparently failed to disclose potentially exculpatory evidence: "Judge [then prosecutor] Kilander is accused of not disclosing that a lawyer had told him in 1985 that a client had admitted being the sole killer of the girl."
That's one we definitely agree on.
I'm sorry if I misinterpreted you talk of accidents. I tried to respond to it as if you meant that you can't stop the unfortunate from happening, with the idea that you can make sure when the unfortunate does happen, the effects are as small as reasonalby possible. As I thought, we really aren't too far apart here.
Excellent. That's one.
I checked out Nifong in wikipedia recently. He did a day in jail for lying in court about his evidence.
Hopper
Banned
Yeah, but that was lying in another proceeding (the one investigating his actions, I think). I haven't really followed that sorry loser, Nifong, but there was talk (and I think it was the recommendation of the special prosecutor who was appointed) that he should be criminally charged for his role in the handling of the "rape" case. I think I also heard that NC passed special laws to punish the kinda things he did, but of course they could not be applied retroactively. I guess nuthin ever came of the push for criminal charges (why not, who knows?).
He did declare bankruptcy after the students filed a civil suit against his lyin ***, to stop the case, and avoid payment of damages, I hear. Shoulda been worse, but you can't really say he was not "accountable" for his actions, especially in light of his disbarment (or 5-years suspension, whatever it was), and the public disgrace of it all.
Edit: Apparently he claimed about $250,000 in assets, which presumably must be turned over to the bankruptcy trustee for distribution, pro rata, to his "creditors" (the students).
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billyshelby
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How could you not have understood the whole illogical fallacy of aint's argument about accidents? The whole absurdity of his position is that if we can reduce innocent people being killed to good faith accidents of any well intentioned system, it will justify those people being killed relatively. What it ignores is we don't have to live with any accidents whatsoever. What we lose to accomplish that is the death penalty, and whatever good it is perceived to have. But that good is never going to exceed killing even one innocent person when there is an alternative to prevent it entirely.