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Im going to bed so addictionary will just have to make his own pick tomorrow
 
Thee jazz fan said:
And excuse me fab. Couldn't help having the third pick. Wanted to build around versatile C. That's Hakeem. Hakeem is the one center with really no weaknesses. Has all the post moves great and willing passer great post defender and help defender, and athletic enough to guard on the perimeter great shot blocker and gets lots of steals. He does everything at an elite level at the center position.

I can build a team around him by adding almost anyone I want. Most versatile center ever to play the game, and for the love of god... Durant is a first round talent, and not far behind LBJ. Easily the second best player in the nba currently.
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hakeem had a plenty of weakness. hakeem was in the zone 94 - 95. i'll give you that. 2 legit top 10 peak value. but hakeem had plenty of mediocre years. late 30's kareem shot over young kareem all night long. owned him head to head between 84-87. wilt would own him badly too. and lakers shaq would simply out muscle him. young & inexperienced shaq did drop 28pts avg on him against hakeem in that so called 'ownage' series in 95 finals. it was not one sided ownage. hakeem had better of shaq, but 95 shaq was half the shaq. peak shaq gets whatever he wants against any hakeem. hakeem with his quickness would drop 27-28 on shaq too. but shaq gets his 35 and simply out muscle him.

no doubt hakeem is top 5 center. but if i'm building a team i take wilt, kareem, and shaq over hakeem anytime anyday.
 
Hack said:
30th all time scorer. Shot good percentages. 7th all time 3 pointers made. Best dunker ever. Maybe the best athlete to ever play the game. Clutch.

What's the problem bro?

Let me guess, he didn't play before 1990. ??
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what does dunk has got to do with playing basketball? vince carter never developed a functional offense. could he score? yes he did. all because of his athleticism. dude's jumper was not reliable when it mattered the most. never had decent post game. he was mentally weak. never had leadership. he lived off his dunk contest fame. never seen a guy who could avg over 20+pts, but couldn't impact the game like he did. couldn't do anything in the playoffs as a lead dog.

what else? did i mention he doesn't know how play D? with that sick talent, he should've been at least 5-6 time defensive 1st team. he has none! hell, he doesn't even have defensive 2nd team under his belt. not 1! he truly is one of the most wasted talent ever in my book. talent can only get you so far. if vince carter had kobe's work ethic and meanness, he would've been somebody.

he was chosen at 40, ahead of greats like elgin baylor and friggin kevin mchale. wow. if carter had 1/5 of functional skills mchale had, maybe he would've done something in this league.
 
spycam1 said:
T-Mac had even better numbers.

32, 7, 6 on 46% FGs and 39% 3pt on 6 attemtps
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and tmac was a much better player than vince ever was. it's not even comparable. the gap between tmac and vince is much bigger than the gap between kobe and tmac. vince carter should not have been a lead dog. he should've been developed as a scottie pippen because he never had a mental fortitude and never had any leadership. tmac too. tmac would've been a great scottie pippen.

it's hard to be a lead dog in nba. vince carter and tmac are 2 prime example.

for vince, the dunk contest was the biggest mistake of his career. he thought he could walk on water. dude never bothered to play defense, and was just happy to be there. he reminded me of charles woodson with raiders. woodson had so much physical talent that he didn't even have to practice. he later became mature and became a workaholic as a packer. guys like vince carter was just happy to be there and was content to see himself dunking over everybody on a sportscenter top 10. he is poorman's nique in that regard.
 
I do remember a playoff series when Vince had multiple 40 point games and the opponent (76ers maybe) were double teaming him when he didn't even have the ball
 
Fabtrey said:
hakeem had a plenty of weakness. hakeem was in the zone 94 - 95. i'll give you that. 2 legit top 10 peak value. but hakeem had plenty of mediocre years. late 30's kareem shot over young kareem all night long. owned him head to head between 84-87. wilt would own him badly too. and lakers shaq would simply out muscle him. young & inexperienced shaq did drop 28pts avg on him against hakeem in that so called 'ownage' series in 95 finals. it was not one sided ownage. hakeem had better of shaq, but 95 shaq was half the shaq. peak shaq gets whatever he wants against any hakeem. hakeem with his quickness would drop 27-28 on shaq too. but shaq gets his 35 and simply out muscle him.

no doubt hakeem is top 5 center. but if i'm building a team i take wilt, kareem, and shaq over hakeem anytime anyday.
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Lol. It's good to know old Kareem can shoot over young Kareem. Cool dude.

Please tell me where these mediocre years are? WTF, and don't say his last couple twilit years. This draft is about players at there peak years where ever that is

great. Shaq got his 28 points. If a 4-0 sweep isn't ownage I don't know what is.

You can spew sewage from your mouth all you want, but it doesn't change the fact that Hakeem is the most skilled center to play the game.

Aren't you the guy that said Trey would be the next CP3. That's ownage. And don't try to deny everyone here remembers you saying it!
 
I'm very happy with my team to this point.

The only thing left I want to try to do is upgrade at the center position.

Willing to package Dikembe Mutombo & Chris Mullin in a trade.

If interested, PM me, and we can probably work out a deal. :cool:
 
fishonjazz said:
I do remember a playoff series when Vince had multiple 40 point games and the opponent (76ers maybe) were double teaming him when he didn't even have the ball
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biggest waste of a natural physical talent ever. EVER. dude should've been kobe's level if he ever had mental fortitude and work ethic. soft as a cottonelle tissue. lazy. mr. empty stats. no defense. greatest dunker ever, but dude is not a great basketball player.
 
Fatbrey gon fatbrey
Probably should just ignore him
 
and how could anybody pick bron over tim duncan? bron stalls the offense. ask wade and bosh. too ball dominant. the biggest fallacy ever in the NBA is bron's magic like 'court vision'. bron is a good passer. but magic moved the offense. made the offense go. it was assist & fast break fest with magic. Bron team never had a fluid offense. why? he is too ball dominant. he makes the right decision, but it takes time for him to make that right decision. magic & larry on the other hand didn't take time. their instinct took over. if magic/larry are natural than bron is too robotic. he is calculating, smart as hell, but it's always hard to play with bron.


time after time timmy is disrespected. 5 rings which should've been 6. and absolutely flawless peak value.
prime timmy is better than any version of bron. of course timmy ain't sexy. he plays for friggin san antonio. but if you want to win a ring, you build a team around the big who can do it all.

i believe bron will climb up and eventually be the top 3 greatest player ever. his career argument is flawless if he can win 1 more chip. but he hasn't gotten there yet.
 
and whoever picked james harden.... come on man. there is something called defense. james harden decides that he is above defense.
 
Fabtrey said:
what does dunk has got to do with playing basketball? vince carter never developed a functional offense. could he score? yes he did. all because of his athleticism. dude's jumper was not reliable when it mattered the most. never had decent post game. he was mentally weak. never had leadership. he lived off his dunk contest fame. never seen a guy who could avg over 20+pts, but couldn't impact the game like he did. couldn't do anything in the playoffs as a lead dog.

what else? did i mention he doesn't know how play D? with that sick talent, he should've been at least 5-6 time defensive 1st team. he has none! hell, he doesn't even have defensive 2nd team under his belt. not 1! he truly is one of the most wasted talent ever in my book. talent can only get you so far. if vince carter had kobe's work ethic and meanness, he would've been somebody.

he was chosen at 40, ahead of greats like elgin baylor and friggin kevin mchale. wow. if carter had 1/5 of functional skills mchale had, maybe he would've done something in this league.
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What do you mean, what does the dunk have to do with basketball? Does a dunk not count as two points just the same as a hook shot, lay up, or jump shot?

The dunk is a higher percentage, more effective way of putting the ball in the hole.
 
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