Jazz players at the World Cup

[GVC]

Trey Burke was 36.6% FG and 35.2% 3PT in catch-and-shoot situations.

"OK" may be a bit of a stretch; .352 isn't horrible though (although it's not good either). He also shot better than 40% from the corner. I think he improves on those numbers this season; he has a decent stroke.

My point still stands though. It's not a "fact" that Burke can't shoot. He should be fine spotting up if he plays off-ball more this season. You have to defend him out to the 3-point line.

 

[GVC]

The point (pun intended) is that Burke was a poor shooter last season.

I think you need to look beyond field goal and 3-point percentage, especially when you're arguing that Trey and Dante can't play together.

 

[GVC]

Although Corbin still used him in the worst way possible.

How so? He played him in lineups that gave him more space on offense, allowed him to have the ball where he was comfortable (in the post), gave him plenty of opportunities with the ball, and didn't require him to make quick reads or tough passes. He also played a bunch of his minutes against bench players, which mitigated his weaknesses on both ends significantly.

 

[Stoked]

Reality is harsh. The point (pun intended) is that Burke was a poor shooter last season. And he showed very little improvement in his second SL. If that was the ONLY concern then I'd hope he'd improve it. But he's also short, plays slow and doesn't get to the rim (which negates the one thing he DOES do well...shoot FT's).

Trey is going to be a solid backup or a starter on a very weak team, nothing more. The sooner all of you realize this, the better. Fortunately, I think the FO already has and had no hesitation drafting Dante.

They had no hesitation drafting Dante as he was clearly the BPA at the time. I doubt Burke was even thought of. Maybe you are right but you, and several others, have written him off from the start.

Foolish

 

[ema]

How so? He played him in lineups that gave him more space on offense, allowed him to have the ball where he was comfortable (in the post), gave him plenty of opportunities with the ball, and didn't require him to make quick reads or tough passes. He also played a bunch of his minutes against bench players, which mitigated his weaknesses on both ends significantly.

**** my English. I'm still not talking about the last season man(when I said he used him in the worst way). I haven't seen much of the last season like I've said it many times before.

 

[addictionary]

Enes mostly played garbage time in the first two. He wasn't pushed too much towards getting better. Instead his better sides were limited, led by rebounding freely. Corbin made him push the dudes out of the box. Dirty work of dirty works. He can rebound man! Let him do it.

 

[addictionary]

Exum has a lot of star potential to his game. I really can see him getting much better than this. I think experience will fix his down sides and make him become an awesome player to watch. He doesn't need anything much more than experience, honestly.

 

[GVC]

**** my English. I'm still not talking about the last season man(when I said he used him in the worst way). I haven't seen much of the last season like I've said it many times before.

Fair enough.

 

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Jazzfanz: where getting 3rd in ROTY voting (from a 9th overall pick mind you) is considered "miserable".

lmfao

 

[addictionary]

I'm really down on this board dissing Trey Burke. He is a pure PG. The perfect player that Utah need. He just played a rookie season. One-Rookie-Season! Give him a break. He has the smarts for the game. He will get there.

 

[Fishsticks]

Hey guys.....so did everyone just stop watching the game and start bashing Trey? I was loving the updates and then this thread went to **** at halftime. What was Exums final line?

 

[Stoked]

Hey guys.....so did everyone just stop watching the game and start bashing Trey? I was loving the updates and then this thread went to **** at halftime. What was Exums final line?

Pretty much. Bashing Jazz players is a favorite past time on here. Especially younger players.

 

[GVC]

Pretty much. Bashing Jazz players is a favorite past time on here. Especially younger players.

Seems to me the coaching staff and older players get bashed a hell of a lot more than the young players on this board.

 

[stitches]

Hey guys.....so did everyone just stop watching the game and start bashing Trey? I was loving the updates and then this thread went to **** at halftime. What was Exums final line?

Dante went quiet in the second half, that's why.

Got just 2 assists for 3s, missed a couple of 3pts. One rattled around the ring and went out, the other one hit the backboard... Then they took him out. Didn't play much in the second half.

Exum has a lot of star potential to his game. I really can see him getting much better than this. I think experience will fix his down sides and make him become an awesome player to watch. He doesn't need anything much more than experience, honestly.

Actually he needs much more than experience - conditioning, strength, shooting, left-hand handle. The good thing is that most of the things he needs are coachable/fixable and he can improve on. Another good thing is that he has all the things that you usually can't coach - vision, passing, feel for the game, first step, quickness.

 

[Stoked]

Seems to me the coaching staff and older players get bashed a hell of a lot more than the young players on this board.

I was excluding the coaches as we were talking about players. You have a point with the perceived "vet" players like Jefferson.

 

[fishonjazz]

The season before, Kanter was on a team with 2 borderline all-star bigs.

A team without a stacked

Hello

 

[fishonjazz]

It's not a "fact" that Burke can't shoot.

It is a fact that he has been a poor shooter so far in his nba career

 

[fishonjazz]

He played him in lineups that gave him more space on offense

So playing with Burks, Evans, Garrett gives more spacing than playing with Marvin, Hayward, trey, and Jefferson?

Interesting take

 

[GVC]

It is a fact that he has been a poor shooter so far in his nba career

And, again, what do you or core4 mean by "shooter"? If you're talking spot-up 3-point shooter, he's not that bad, especially considering it was his first NBA season and he was recovering from a broken finger on his shooting hand. These qualifications are pretty meaningful given that core4 was talking about how Trey and Dante fit together.

 

[GVC]

Hello

I was only addressing his point about the coach, not the makeup of the roster. What the ****?